Here we go again: classic car investment portfolio

Here we go again: classic car investment portfolio

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LotusOmega375D

Original Poster:

7,912 posts

158 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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Haven’t people lost their shirts buying into these schemes before? They also have the potential to remove important cars from circulation. This one is being promoted by Hakkinen, Coulthard and McNish of all people. Yuk.

https://tertrerougeassets.com/

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1709715/...


theadman

579 posts

162 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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Reading the website was interesting.

The directors are all experts in their field. The two principal shareholders are an expert in 'start ups' (fair enough) and celebrity security (but he has amassed an eye watering collection of classic cars and bikes). The other three are racing drivers. All experts maybe, but not in the buying and selling of classic cars for profit.

I don't think I'll be investing...oh and the shares were temporarily suspended on 3rd January.


lowdrag

13,014 posts

218 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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I would suggest that they have a look at the Hagerty valuations index. My two cars have dropped £200,000 in the last five years. and I do not see them ever recovering - ever. Perhaps cars from 1980 onwards but then one day the same will happen to them. They will only be attractive to by then old people who remembered them from their youth, as I do my E-type. And after 2030 what will they then be considering? Which electric car will be an "investment"? I think our money is better under the mattress.

BobToc

1,833 posts

122 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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It's a SPAC, if you don't have a very good understand of the economics to the sponsors (Mika, David and Co.) vs the shareholders then do not go anywhere near this.

BobToc

1,833 posts

122 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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theadman said:
I don't think I'll be investing...oh and the shares were temporarily suspended on 3rd January.

Because they couldn't pull the accounts together. Madness.

restoman

947 posts

213 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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I'm Ooot

bloomen

7,175 posts

164 months

Saturday 21st January 2023
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I remember reading of Japanese investment banks buying Ferraris et al in the late 80s and hiding them away.

With inflation taken into account, which I presume is part of the point, they still wouldn't fetch what they did back then. And then there's 25-35 years of oblivion in between.

If they're exclusively buying things like Stirling Moss's 300 SLR then they might still be on to something in the long term. Last time I checked there aren't too many of those.

Roderick Spode

3,349 posts

54 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Looks like they have written the website on Notepad. Hardly a great advert for an investment house seeking to relieve the wealthy of their millions.

Rumdoodle

899 posts

25 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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bloomen said:
I remember reading of Japanese investment banks buying Ferraris et al in the late 80s and hiding them away.

With inflation taken into account, which I presume is part of the point, they still wouldn't fetch what they did back then. And then there's 25-35 years of oblivion in between.

If they're exclusively buying things like Stirling Moss's 300 SLR then they might still be on to something in the long term. Last time I checked there aren't too many of those.
Agreed, although I think values of ex-Stirling Moss SLRs have probably peaked. Whoever bought that, I suspect their phone is not ringing off the hook with offers.

LotusOmega375D

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7,912 posts

158 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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MB still owns the Stirling Moss Mille Miglia winning 300 SLR (#722). I think you’re alluding to the “Uhlenhaut” gullwing 300 SLR sold last year. They kept the other one.