Circuit board repairer

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vpr

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243 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Can anyone recommend a reliable vehicle circuit board repairer?

Many thx in advance

droopsnoot

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247 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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A "hard" circuit board, or one of the plastic ones that fits on the back of some dashboards? I'm currently making a new one of the latter, having done one a year or two back for another car. Progress is halted at the moment because I slipped with the scalpel.

vpr

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Thursday 29th December 2022
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droopsnoot said:
A "hard" circuit board, or one of the plastic ones that fits on the back of some dashboards? I'm currently making a new one of the latter, having done one a year or two back for another car. Progress is halted at the moment because I slipped with the scalpel.
This little thing. Controls the lights


NMNeil

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55 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Is the board physically broken or just not working?

Mercky

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Thursday 29th December 2022
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Broken in two by the looks of it.

NMNeil

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Thursday 29th December 2022
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Mercky said:
Broken in two by the looks of it.
I can't see any of the traces broken, that's why I asked.

NMNeil

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Thursday 29th December 2022
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Just noticed what look like four burn holes in the middle.

vpr

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Thursday 29th December 2022
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I’m not too sure tbh. It belongs to a friend and I said I’d ask some experts.

He’s a bit stuck

NMNeil

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Thursday 29th December 2022
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The board doesn't seem to do much. A connector, a few SMD caps and resistors, possibly LED's and a couple of what might be SO-23 mosfets.
A better/clearer photo would help, and a view of the other side to see what caused the burns.


finlo

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Thursday 29th December 2022
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Image says it's of an Nintendo remote control?

john2443

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216 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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droopsnoot said:
A "hard" circuit board, or one of the plastic ones that fits on the back of some dashboards? I'm currently making a new one of the latter, having done one a year or two back for another car. Progress is halted at the moment because I slipped with the scalpel.
"the plastic ones" Technically called Flexible Printed Circuits smile How are you making them? I used to work for one of the companies that made them for Smiths/Lucas/BL, Ford, Vauxhall/Opel etc, but we had tools to make a few thousand a day, we never made even prototypes by hand, they were etched.

If you're cutting the tracks with a scalpel and stripping off the spare copper in the gaps, that must be hard work!

NMNeil

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Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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john2443 said:
"the plastic ones" Technically called Flexible Printed Circuits smile How are you making them? I used to work for one of the companies that made them for Smiths/Lucas/BL, Ford, Vauxhall/Opel etc, but we had tools to make a few thousand a day, we never made even prototypes by hand, they were etched.

If you're cutting the tracks with a scalpel and stripping off the spare copper in the gaps, that must be hard work!
As an electronics hobbyist I moved from making my own PCB's to just having them made professionally.
$2 for 5 boards and I don't have to mess with ferric chloride anymore. biggrin.
https://www.hackster.io/electroboy001/jlcpcb-smt-a...

brman

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114 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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NMNeil said:
john2443 said:
"the plastic ones" Technically called Flexible Printed Circuits smile How are you making them? I used to work for one of the companies that made them for Smiths/Lucas/BL, Ford, Vauxhall/Opel etc, but we had tools to make a few thousand a day, we never made even prototypes by hand, they were etched.

If you're cutting the tracks with a scalpel and stripping off the spare copper in the gaps, that must be hard work!
As an electronics hobbyist I moved from making my own PCB's to just having them made professionally.
$2 for 5 boards and I don't have to mess with ferric chloride anymore. biggrin.
https://www.hackster.io/electroboy001/jlcpcb-smt-a...
Or pcbway. They also do flexi and flexi-rigid, albeit at higher costs.
I agree, the only reason to DIY nowadays is if you have too much time on your hands, want a challenge and don't mind pretty poor results.... wink

droopsnoot

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247 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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john2443 said:
droopsnoot said:
A "hard" circuit board, or one of the plastic ones that fits on the back of some dashboards? I'm currently making a new one of the latter, having done one a year or two back for another car. Progress is halted at the moment because I slipped with the scalpel.
"the plastic ones" Technically called Flexible Printed Circuits smile How are you making them? I used to work for one of the companies that made them for Smiths/Lucas/BL, Ford, Vauxhall/Opel etc, but we had tools to make a few thousand a day, we never made even prototypes by hand, they were etched.

If you're cutting the tracks with a scalpel and stripping off the spare copper in the gaps, that must be hard work!
Two pieces of self-adhesive clear acrylic sheet with the copper tracks hand-cut. It is hard going cutting the copper, which is how I ended up giving it "a bit extra" and slicing into the end of my fingers. Well, that and not wearing the leather gloves that were no more than six feet away, but awkward to hold things with.

The problem is that the little "tags" where the dash light holders clip into place break off, and they're tricky to repair. The new copper is slightly thicker than the original, which ought to be good. It's not quite as "smooth" as the original, but it does the job.



brman said:
Or pcbway. They also do flexi and flexi-rigid, albeit at higher costs.
I agree, the only reason to DIY nowadays is if you have too much time on your hands, want a challenge and don't mind pretty poor results.... wink
I hadn't thought of trying to get someone to make one for me, as I only wanted one (which turned out to be two). I do have more spare time than spare money most of the time, and don't mind having a go. I just had a quick look at pcbway, "albeit at higher costs" is the key phrase - rough price around $350 for 5.

Edited by droopsnoot on Tuesday 3rd January 18:43

gifdy

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246 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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vpr said:
droopsnoot said:
A "hard" circuit board, or one of the plastic ones that fits on the back of some dashboards? I'm currently making a new one of the latter, having done one a year or two back for another car. Progress is halted at the moment because I slipped with the scalpel.
This little thing. Controls the lights

Is it just double sided ? If so it should be repairable, or not so easy if it has layers with hidden tracks. Take a look at the edge…are there multiple layers ?


Edited by gifdy on Tuesday 3rd January 21:51

brman

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114 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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droopsnoot said:
I hadn't thought of trying to get someone to make one for me, as I only wanted one (which turned out to be two). I do have more spare time than spare money most of the time, and don't mind having a go. I just had a quick look at pcbway, "albeit at higher costs" is the key phrase - rough price around $350 for 5.

Edited by droopsnoot on Tuesday 3rd January 18:43
True, I have to admit I was thinking something a few inches square when I suggested pcbway. Size does make it expensive frown
I also have to admit I admire you patience doing something like that!

Unreal

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30 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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You need to go through the trade but these guys have done work on abs controllers for me in the past.

https://www.actronics.co.uk/

There do seem to be some proper cowboys out there so tread carefully.

NMNeil

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55 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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brman said:
Or pcbway. They also do flexi and flexi-rigid, albeit at higher costs.
I agree, the only reason to DIY nowadays is if you have too much time on your hands, want a challenge and don't mind pretty poor results.... wink
My DIY PCB days ended when I 'borrowed' the wife's iron to do a toner ink transfer and it didn't go as planned biggrin

piecost76

280 posts

179 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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vpr said:
Can anyone recommend a reliable vehicle circuit board repairer?

Many thx in advance
Paramount Electronics - really good!

https://www.paramountelectronics.co.uk/about_repai...