P6 Rover 3500s manual

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austina35

Original Poster:

361 posts

57 months

Sunday 18th September 2022
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Just how good is this car.

Have you owned one? do you currently own one?

I have one and the power is serious.

comments please..

grumpy52

5,685 posts

171 months

Sunday 18th September 2022
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Watch for rot , as you are aware the outer panels are easy to deal with . The big problems can be rot at the suspension mounts , very expensive to put right .
Many prefer them to the SD1 . They are much more "chuckable" if you like a bit of spirited driving .

Twig62

753 posts

101 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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The manual gearbox can be a problem as it can't handle the power from the V8. The 5 speed box from the SD1 can be fitted but these are hard to find now.

TRIUMPHBULLET

703 posts

118 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Superb cars and if you get a good one you will enjoy it, one of the few cars of that period to be able to cruise at 70 all day.
Rust is the No 1 concern, especially the sills as what you see on the outside is just a cover.
Gearbox is weakest link in drivetrain but unless you drive like an idiot it will be fine.

mph

2,343 posts

287 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I've always fancied one of these and, unusually, there are two or three good ones for sale at the moment.

The P6 in general is a fascinating car but the 3500S is the model that appeals most to me. It's a shame that Rover were never able to find a suitable five speed gearbox at the time, but they did try.

I'd also be interested in more ownership opinions from the OP and others.



Edited by mph on Monday 19th September 10:34

Huntsman

8,150 posts

255 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I have my 4th P6.

First was a 2000TC, series 1, I much prefer the series 1 cars, the 200TC goes well enough. It was incredibly rusty I swapped it for a Lambretta!

Second was a 3500 auto S2 with PAS, I loved that car, it drove better than my any of my XJ6s and in many ways better than my Silver Shadow. Kept it ages and wish I still had it.

Third was a 3500S with a 5sp SD1 gearbox, the manual box is a huge transformation, the difference is incredible, but, to me,the lazy auto V8 was nicer. I didnt keep it long and dont regret selling it.

Fourth I bought recently, Three Thousand Five, S1 V8, auto, its an Estoura, very rare, hope to get it running soon.

williamp

19,477 posts

278 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Am i correct in remembering that all of tne "S" were manual and had the circuoar speedo, whilst the 3500 were all auto with strip speedo??

SLK55AMG

4,318 posts

195 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Lovely old wafty barge but aren’t they only about 150bhp max. Rose tinted specs and all

MrAndyW

516 posts

153 months

Tuesday 20th September 2022
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Had one for a few years in the early 80's.
Beatiful car, As already said manual box is a bit weak,
Usually they jump out of reverse,especially on a hill,unless you hold it in gear.

GoodOlBoy

569 posts

108 months

Tuesday 20th September 2022
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SLK55AMG said:
Lovely old wafty barge but aren’t they only about 150bhp max. Rose tinted specs and all
They were well regarded in contemporary road tests and technically they're very interesting with some innovative touches. Rover couldn't make enough to satisfy demand and the police certainly liked them. I don't think rose tinted spectacles are necessary.

Clearly power outputs of 50 years ago don't seem so exciting now but that's hardly the point when they can still cruise at well above the legal limit and top speed is in excess of 120 mph.

Twig62

753 posts

101 months

Tuesday 20th September 2022
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williamp said:
Am i correct in remembering that all of tne "S" were manual and had the circuoar speedo, whilst the 3500 were all auto with strip speedo??
The 2200SC had the strip speedo. The 2200TC and the V8's had the circular dials.

plastic orange

151 posts

206 months

Tuesday 20th September 2022
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I've had 6 P6's over the years, a 2000TC, an early 2000 and 4 x V8's. My favourite was a 1970 auto V8 (series 1) in Davos white. I used it as a daily for 13 years and sold it in 2000 when I discovered fast motor bikes - and regretted it ever since. Best mod for handling was a set of Koni shocks. They do rust very well and I spent hours on welding just about everywhere. My series 1 V8 was ziebarted from new and I think this promoted rust and made any welding operation a bit of a fire risk.

Pete

SLK55AMG

4,318 posts

195 months

Tuesday 20th September 2022
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GoodOlBoy said:
SLK55AMG said:
Lovely old wafty barge but aren’t they only about 150bhp max. Rose tinted specs and all
They were well regarded in contemporary road tests and technically they're very interesting with some innovative touches. Rover couldn't make enough to satisfy demand and the police certainly liked them. I don't think rose tinted spectacles are necessary.

Clearly power outputs of 50 years ago don't seem so exciting now but that's hardly the point when they can still cruise at well above the legal limit and top speed is in excess of 120 mph.
I did say they are a lovely old barge. The rose tinted specs was regarding the power and it being “serious power” they are not, but I’d still like a go in one.

aeropilot

36,113 posts

232 months

Tuesday 20th September 2022
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williamp said:
Am i correct in remembering that all of tne "S" were manual and had the circuoar speedo, whilst the 3500 were all auto with strip speedo??
No.

All the Series 2 V8's had the later circular instrument cluster, as did the 2000 and 2200TC's.

As previous post, only the 4 cyl SC cars retained the Series 1 style strip speedo.

aeropilot

36,113 posts

232 months

Tuesday 20th September 2022
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Twig62 said:
The manual gearbox can be a problem as it can't handle the power from the V8. The 5 speed box from the SD1 can be fitted but these are hard to find now.
IIRC, its not the power, but the torque of the V8 that causes problems for the gearbox.

Gavarnie

136 posts

63 months

Tuesday 20th September 2022
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Chatting to someone only this afternoon who told me he still had his old manual gearbox chocolate brown 3500S sitting in the garage. Sounds as though it has been there for years, flat tyres etc. I asked him what he remembered about it - his answer was "18 mpg".

plastic orange

151 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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My friend had a very low mileage 3500s - less than 20k on the clock. I'd agreed to buy it, but before I could collect it he'd hit a lampost with it and wiped it out - what a waste.

Pete

stevebrookman

77 posts

132 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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I bought one in the mid 80's from a bloke in the pub who had blown the gearbox up racing it. I paid £200. He couldn't find a box but I knew for an original 4 speed. Put it in and MOT's it. It was bloody quick-would spin the wheels in 2nd gear on a dry road when accelerating hard. Replaced it with a manual 3500 SD1 which was nowhere near it performance wise. Looked a bit of a mess as most of the panels and doors were different colours as the wings and doors were easily changed for less rusty ones. Rear brakes are always spoken about - issues with changing the pads-I used to drop the driveshafts off the diff (discs are inbound) and it was straightforward. Wished I had kept it along with the Interceptor i bought later.

Here it is hidden behind my Interceptor before I removed the paint from the bumpers!

Unreal

4,433 posts

30 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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Gavarnie said:
Chatting to someone only this afternoon who told me he still had his old manual gearbox chocolate brown 3500S sitting in the garage. Sounds as though it has been there for years, flat tyres etc. I asked him what he remembered about it - his answer was "18 mpg".
I wonder if it could be mine, also dark brown, sold back in the 80s. NSN 377R so a late one. Those were the days. It was replaced with a Capri 3.0S.

I really rated the Rover but rust was an issue and it was in awkward places. All four wings bolt on iirc, which helps.

I also had an auto which on balance I just preferred but the 3500S was definitely the more sporting drive. I'll see if I have a photo but it would be interesting if the car is my old one.

singlecoil

34,218 posts

251 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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It's a long time since I was involved with Rover V8s (in a TR7 context) but I remember that the P6 version had IIRC a rope rear crankshaft oil seal, and they didn't work very well. This changed on the SD1 Rovers.

I had a 2000 TC and drove an auto V8 way back when they were still current (although my car was little more than a banger at the timesmile) and I'd go for the auto if I was to have another, though ideally it would be a 4.6 with a 4 speed auto (if one could be found that would fit).