Observer's Book of Automobiles : 1962

Observer's Book of Automobiles : 1962

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cherryowen

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11,890 posts

209 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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I'm unsure if there would be an appetite for this, but here we go.

About four years ago, at Ludlow market, I bought a well-preserved copy of the 1962 edition of The Observer's Book of Automobiles with the Foreword written by a certain Stirling Moss O.B.E. (as he was titled at the time). I dip into it regularly, noting cars I've never heard of, descriptions of their appearance, and potted histories of manufacturers like Studebaker and Pontiac.

For example, I've just read this opening paragraph for Riley Motors Ltd. :-

Rileys started business, originally as a family concern, in 1896, the first Riley car designed by Percy Riley appearing on the roads of Britain in 1898. Since then the various models produced by the company have gained a world-wide reputation. In high performance and in the average run of everyday motoring, the name Riley has achieved great renown

The description goes on, and is repeated for the likes of Wolseley and Jaguar and Renault. Then there are the listings, descriptions, and images of the cars for each marque. Consider that in 1962, Volkswagen were manufacturing three models : The Beetle (officially the Volkswagen De Luxe Saloon), the 1500 Saloon, and the 1500 Karmann-Ghia Coupe!

Anyway, I'm happy to cherry-pick the interesting words and images from the book if only for interest and to maybe jog some memories.,

Pica-Pica

14,353 posts

89 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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Enjoy it! I guess I must have had the same book when it came out. Mine probably fell to pieces by being constantly thumbed through. My guess is that it starts with the AC Ace, and ended with a ZIL of some description.

Mr Tidy

23,767 posts

132 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Brilliant - I had one from the mid-1960s and recently bought a 1979 one.

Riley Blue

21,432 posts

231 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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They were regular items on my birthday / Christmas lists along with 'Aircraft' and 'Ships'. All now sadly lost but I've since picked up a few 'Automobiles': 1959, 1960 and 1963. Fascinating reading for school boys back then, especially the predictions about cars of the future.

Skyedriver

18,498 posts

287 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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There's some memories. I had a couple from the late 60's early 70's wonder where they went.
Still have Observers Book of Birds that I got a a prize at school 1961. I was second in class but they gave 2nd prize to the first girl, I got "Progress" prize.
Still wrankles 60 years on - ha ha.. He and she went on to be head boy & head girl. Favouritism - nah surely not.
Next year I was 17th in class, Teacher didn't like me that year as I was hopeless at football. But I digress.....

Turbobanana

6,635 posts

206 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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As a 1968 registration, my technical interest in the finer points of the automobile started in the mid 1970s so my Observer's Book was the 1975 edition, with a white Lotus Elite on the cover.

I was always fascinated by the name "Olyslager Organisation", the people that compiled it.

These were really good, useful books that engaged the (mainly younger) audience: the proof is that we still remember them 50+ years on. Today we have Google.

Jader1973

4,227 posts

205 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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I have “Automobiles” from 1957 (also with a Stirling Moss foreword), 1980, 1984, 1985, 1986, and then “Cars” from 1987, 1988, 1990.

I’ve also got “Vintage Cars and Pre-war classics” from 1982 (which appears to be the first year it was published).

My favourite is the 1960 Dumpy Pocket Book of Cars & Commercial Vehicles.

Gemaeden

293 posts

120 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Jader1973 said:
I have “Automobiles” from 1957 (also with a Stirling Moss foreword), 1980, 1984, 1985, 1986, and then “Cars” from 1987, 1988, 1990.

I’ve also got “Vintage Cars and Pre-war classics” from 1982 (which appears to be the first year it was published).

My favourite is the 1960 Dumpy Pocket Book of Cars & Commercial Vehicles.
Cars are legally different from automobiles inasmuch as they are a vehicle and used in commerce and therefore they and their driver are subject to registration, licencing, taxing and other laws, whereas automobiles are not. This distinction is not one that people are generally aware of.

piper

297 posts

273 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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I have the 1973 Observers books of Automobiles from 1973 still sitting on bookshelf, I remember buying in W H Smith in Maidenhead when I was 13 years old in June 1973, I went shopping with my mum and bought it with my hard-earned pocket money.
Ironically that day was also very memorable as on the way back from Maidenhead towards home at Holyport we approached a roundabout in the left hand lane and to our right a yellow Lamborghini pulled up beside us to stop for the roundabout, it was Rod Stewart in LUC 38K, I remember a pretty female passenger also in the car but don’t know who it was, the sight and sound of that car has remained with me since and every time I look at that book the memory floods back.

nicanary

10,066 posts

151 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Jader1973 said:
I have “Automobiles” from 1957 (also with a Stirling Moss foreword), 1980, 1984, 1985, 1986, and then “Cars” from 1987, 1988, 1990.

I’ve also got “Vintage Cars and Pre-war classics” from 1982 (which appears to be the first year it was published).

My favourite is the 1960 Dumpy Pocket Book of Cars & Commercial Vehicles.
I had the Dumpy book too. Also my favourite. It was indeed dumpy in shape and weight.

Super Sonic

6,777 posts

59 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Gemaeden said:
Cars are legally different from automobiles inasmuch as they are a vehicle and used in commerce and therefore they and their driver are subject to registration, licencing, taxing and other laws, whereas automobiles are not. This distinction is not one that people are generally aware of.
Surely you jest!

Giulia Jon

407 posts

24 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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piper said:
a yellow Lamborghini pulled up beside us to stop for the roundabout, it was Rod Stewart in LUC 38K, I remember a pretty female passenger also in the car but don’t know who it was,
I was going to suggest Britt Ekland but she was 2 years later ,Wikipedia suggests a Dee Harrington in 1973 ,but knowing Rod's reputation could have been anybody .

On topic ,I had these books too ,probably early 70s .Long since thrown away .

Longnose

250 posts

118 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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My oldest one is 1959. I was eleven then and bought them every year through the sixties and some of the seventies.

Riley Blue

21,432 posts

231 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Longnose said:
My oldest one is 1959. I was eleven then and bought them every year through the sixties and some of the seventies.
What an excellent choice of cover car!

cherryowen

Original Poster:

11,890 posts

209 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
My guess is that it starts with the AC Ace, and ended with a ZIL of some description.
Just had a look, and the first entry is Abarth, specifically this:-



The 850 Spyder (the above is the actual picture in my copy of the book). Four-cylinder 833cc engine, rear mounted; 52bhp and a maximum speed of 100mph (approx).

Last entry is indeed a Zavod Imeni Likachev; this one:-



A 111-V Cabriolet. 5980cc V8, 200bhp, compression ratio 9:1. I'd half expect a Cadillac badge on that!

cherryowen

Original Poster:

11,890 posts

209 months

Saturday 17th September 2022
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A curio I never knew existed until I bought the book:-



The Warwick 350 Sports Saloon, built by Bernard Rodger Developments Ltd. of Horton near Slough.

3.5 litre V8 with 180bhp and a top speed of 140mph.

An unlikely looking thing for such performance

Gemaeden

293 posts

120 months

Sunday 18th September 2022
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Super Sonic said:
Gemaeden said:
Cars are legally different from automobiles inasmuch as they are a vehicle and used in commerce and therefore they and their driver are subject to registration, licencing, taxing and other laws, whereas automobiles are not. This distinction is not one that people are generally aware of.
Surely you jest!
Since having my business stuffed by the lockdowns, I've spent an awful lot of time informing myself about all sorts of things that my state education omitted. I don't jest, but few others do the research and prefer to stick to the party line for an easy life, which is fair enough, but I thought I'd put it out there, just in case someone was interested.

Riley Blue

21,432 posts

231 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Gemaeden said:
Super Sonic said:
Gemaeden said:
Cars are legally different from automobiles inasmuch as they are a vehicle and used in commerce and therefore they and their driver are subject to registration, licencing, taxing and other laws, whereas automobiles are not. This distinction is not one that people are generally aware of.
Surely you jest!
Since having my business stuffed by the lockdowns, I've spent an awful lot of time informing myself about all sorts of things that my state education omitted. I don't jest, but few others do the research and prefer to stick to the party line for an easy life, which is fair enough, but I thought I'd put it out there, just in case someone was interested.
Which country's legal definitions are you referring to? AFAIK the UK 1988 Road Traffic Act doesn't use the word 'automobile':

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/secti...

Gemaeden

293 posts

120 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Riley Blue said:
Gemaeden said:
Super Sonic said:
Gemaeden said:
Cars are legally different from automobiles inasmuch as they are a vehicle and used in commerce and therefore they and their driver are subject to registration, licencing, taxing and other laws, whereas automobiles are not. This distinction is not one that people are generally aware of.
Surely you jest!
Since having my business stuffed by the lockdowns, I've spent an awful lot of time informing myself about all sorts of things that my state education omitted. I don't jest, but few others do the research and prefer to stick to the party line for an easy life, which is fair enough, but I thought I'd put it out there, just in case someone was interested.
Which country's legal definitions are you referring to? AFAIK the UK 1988 Road Traffic Act doesn't use the word 'automobile':

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/secti...
That's right. It doesn't say 'automobile' in the RTA, because an automobile doesn't come under the Admiralty jurisdiction, which covers the fraudulent commercial sea roads that have been brought onto land, through the mingling of common and admiralty law.

If you search the government website for 'automobile' (https://www.google.com/search?q=site:https://www.legislation.gov.uk+%22automobile%22) you will find that pretty well all the references are to motorsport, which is non commercial - i.e. the automobile is not carrying goods or passengers for reward. You'll note that the 'Royal Automobile Club' which was a private organisation has now changed to a limited liability commercial organisation, thus enabling the government to get its sticky fingers involved.

This growing awareness of the overreach of government interference with our everyday lives is being tested with increasing success in America, which derives its law of the right to travel from the English common law that was around when the colonies gained independence.

Naturally, if motoring enthusiasts aren't aware of the distinction, you can be sure that the police and magistrates won't know either, so they have to be informed too. I understand that most can't be bothered with the hassle and find it easier to give in to these rules. That is no longer my life path, I now realise that no-one ever complied their way to a better life.

Halmyre

11,441 posts

144 months

Tuesday 20th September 2022
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I've got the 1955 edition, foreword by Stirling Moss (did they ever change it for each year?). Runs from AC to ZIM (Zavod Imiena Molotova).