Riley 1.5 Spotted

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Bogsye

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398 posts

157 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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I spotted this little gem today, which was really quite bizzare.



My great aunt owned one, just like this. The same colour in fact. Her father bought it in 1963 from Monument Garage in Ayr, having traded in his Hillman, registered RAG468. The Riley was VSD852. Her father used the car only on dry days. He was fastidious, to the point that they would take a taxi to the shops if it was raining.

My great aunt was rather less fastidious. Having driven an ambulance during the second world war, she seemed to be quite gung-ho. After her father passed away she used it in all weathers, and at one stage crashed it into some park railings, damaging the front wing. This was repaired, and the car carried on service. As a child, in the 1980's I recall visiting her mother's house in Ayr and always wanting to see the Riley in the garage, which had by now, lay dormant for many years. Eventually my aunt's mother passed, and the car was moved up to Glasgow. She fought the DVLA in the ealry 80's to retain the the registration, and had a light restoration carried out on the car before laying it up once more.

When my great aunt herself passed away in the late 90's I inherited it. Sadly, as a student I had insufficent funds to restore it and sadly, nowhere to store it. I was at this time running a Morris 1000 and an Austin-Healey Sprite MkIV. Regretfully I let the car go, and annoyingly it was robbed of it's number plate. I suspect the car itself is long gone as is the Astra that the plate ended up on.

What makes today's sighting of this other 1.5 more remarkable is that it was the same street that my Great Aunt lived on. I've not been there in years.

Her house can just be seen on the left of the chopped connifer in the foreground.

Brian

BryanC

1,110 posts

243 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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There is a grey one frequently seen around South Nottingham.
Looks mint and an ideal classic for modern times.
It might be this one seen recently advertised.


Edited by BryanC on Tuesday 30th August 22:29

Riley Blue

21,432 posts

231 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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I have a 1963 One-Point-Five like the one in the first photo and it too was originally Bermuda Blue though has had a slight colour change since.


Turbobanana

6,635 posts

206 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Bogsye said:
I spotted this little gem today, which was really quite bizzare.



My great aunt owned one, just like this. The same colour in fact. Her father bought it in 1963 from Monument Garage in Ayr, having traded in his Hillman, registered RAG468. The Riley was VSD852. Her father used the car only on dry days. He was fastidious, to the point that they would take a taxi to the shops if it was raining.

My great aunt was rather less fastidious. Having driven an ambulance during the second world war, she seemed to be quite gung-ho. After her father passed away she used it in all weathers, and at one stage crashed it into some park railings, damaging the front wing. This was repaired, and the car carried on service. As a child, in the 1980's I recall visiting her mother's house in Ayr and always wanting to see the Riley in the garage, which had by now, lay dormant for many years. Eventually my aunt's mother passed, and the car was moved up to Glasgow. She fought the DVLA in the ealry 80's to retain the the registration, and had a light restoration carried out on the car before laying it up once more.

When my great aunt herself passed away in the late 90's I inherited it. Sadly, as a student I had insufficent funds to restore it and sadly, nowhere to store it. I was at this time running a Morris 1000 and an Austin-Healey Sprite MkIV. Regretfully I let the car go, and annoyingly it was robbed of it's number plate. I suspect the car itself is long gone as is the Astra that the plate ended up on.

What makes today's sighting of this other 1.5 more remarkable is that it was the same street that my Great Aunt lived on. I've not been there in years.

Her house can just be seen on the left of the chopped connifer in the foreground.

Brian
Great story, and a spooky coincidence - thanks for sharing.

Bogsye

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398 posts

157 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Thanks folks.

Bermuda Blue - thanks Riley Blue. I had it in my head that it was Island Green, but when googling it wasn't that, but I couldn't figure out what it was.
I'm pretty sure my aunt's car had the later combined indicator/sidelight arrangement.

I last saw my Aunt's car in a garage in Motherwell. I'm not sure if it was ever restored, but it certainly lost it's original plate, so it would be pretty much impossible to figure out if it still exisits. I tried last year to see if the DVLA would list the plate for auction, but it seems to be tied ot the Astra which hasn't been on the road for decades either. They did however list up 852VSD (rather than VSD852).

I shoudl maybe look to see if there's a register and see if it's traceable that way.

I still have the insuranc documents and handbook for it stored away.

noddyriley

1 posts

25 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Hi Brian,
Great story! and weird coincedence!

Unfortunately the old Riley is not in the Riley One-Point-Five Register (which I look after) - however the change of registration number might mean it has sneaked in on a different number.
Do you have any further information in the documents that you still have ( a chassis number or engine number might help me trace it!)
From what you have said it sounds like a Mk3 version - just like Riley Blues!

Roger

My 1.5 is currently upside down!

Chunkychucky

6,054 posts

174 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Great story OP thanks for sharing a surprising coincidence where you spotted that car parked up!

Sorry to hear you were unable to keep your Great Aunt's car on the road frown

Rob Dicky

206 posts

228 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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I remember years go probably mid 60s a neighbour and friend of my father had a Riley 1 point 5, green and cream that he would have used for sprints and hillclimbs at the time my father was competing.
He had the registration number R15 on the Riley, I think when he changed cars to an MGA he kept the number.

Brum_Brum

539 posts

228 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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One of my earliest memories is being allowed to play in the 1.5 that was stuffed into my parents garage. I saw one at a show recently, stuck my head in the window and had a good sniff,. the smell took me right back 35 years,... smile

Up until the age of around 12 I had only ever seen part of the offside,. there was all matter of stuff piled on it. Until one weekend my Dad pulled it out the garage and got it running.

Sold in the Notts evening post for around £50 IIRC,. 1988 ish,.. guy turned up with a Ford Mustang and a trailer,. it was going to end its days on the track,.... he sent us this pic a few weeks later,.


old'uns

549 posts

138 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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http://www.oumf.org/our-cars.html

Their Riley I've seen numerous times at Ypres Rally including this year, always seems to finish.

Riley Blue

21,432 posts

231 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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old'uns said:
http://www.oumf.org/our-cars.html

Their Riley I've seen numerous times at Ypres Rally including this year, always seems to finish.
They have two One-Point-Fives, one for rallying and one for racing, both of them grey. They're well worth a close look if you come across them in the paddock.

Chunkychucky

6,054 posts

174 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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old'uns said:
http://www.oumf.org/our-cars.html

Their Riley I've seen numerous times at Ypres Rally including this year, always seems to finish.
Indeed, the guy's done very well out of getting the 'future masters of the universe' to maintain/run his cars for him free of charge.

Attended for a while in my first year of university 10+ years ago, however grew weary of 'spannering' for someone who at the time was just bumbling around to make the numbers up.

Skyedriver

18,498 posts

287 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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All a bit spooky OP, think you need to make an offer on that blue one. Might even be the same car re-registered.....

Bogsye

Original Poster:

398 posts

157 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Thanks for all the replies!

Apologies too for typing 1.5 and not One-Point-Five!

Thanks Roger for checking if it was on the register - You're right, if it has survived it will be on a different plate. I checked my files and sadly I don't have anything with chassis or engine numbers. I'd probably have to go back through the DVLA.
My garage looks not unlike yours, but I currently have a 205 Gti in a simillar position.

I took a wander the other evening and walked up the street that the One-Point-Five was on, which started this thread. On closer inspection it has the combined front indicator/side lights which matches my Great Aunt's car. Sadly no one was around, and I wasn't about the knock the door.
From a bit of Googling I susepct this particular car is from down south, and unlikley to be my Great Aunt's old car.

The local classic car show was on today and I'd hoped it might have been there, but sadly not. One of my friends was there with his 'Big' Seven, complete with antlers mounted above the windscreen - corks fitted on the pointy bits for safety!

Anyway I dug out some photos of 'my' One-Point-Five for posterity and to add some more colour to the thread. I must have thrown on the old wheels from my Sprite hence the red paint that was on them. The Riley definitely had a set of cross plys that were fairly ruined.





And a photo of the Sprite (I converted this to round wheel arch when I restored it, to specifically get the 6 x 14" Minilite Sport wheels on).


Sadly also, long since sold..


P5BNij

15,875 posts

111 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Bogsye said:
Thanks for all the replies!

Apologies too for typing 1.5 and not One-Point-Five!

Thanks Roger for checking if it was on the register - You're right, if it has survived it will be on a different plate. I checked my files and sadly I don't have anything with chassis or engine numbers. I'd probably have to go back through the DVLA.
My garage looks not unlike yours, but I currently have a 205 Gti in a simillar position.

I took a wander the other evening and walked up the street that the One-Point-Five was on, which started this thread. On closer inspection it has the combined front indicator/side lights which matches my Great Aunt's car. Sadly no one was around, and I wasn't about the knock the door.
From a bit of Googling I susepct this particular car is from down south, and unlikley to be my Great Aunt's old car.

The local classic car show was on today and I'd hoped it might have been there, but sadly not. One of my friends was there with his 'Big' Seven, complete with antlers mounted above the windscreen - corks fitted on the pointy bits for safety!

Anyway I dug out some photos of 'my' One-Point-Five for posterity and to add some more colour to the thread. I must have thrown on the old wheels from my Sprite hence the red paint that was on them. The Riley definitely had a set of cross plys that were fairly ruined.





And a photo of the Sprite (I converted this to round wheel arch when I restored it, to specifically get the 6 x 14" Minilite Sport wheels on).


Sadly also, long since sold..
Lovely looking Sprite that, and the reg' number caught my eye as I used to own a '67 Mk1 Mini 850 reg'd 'MAC 825E' wink

Bogsye

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398 posts

157 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Cheers - That's quite a coincidence! clap

OldDuffer

214 posts

91 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Mine was the Wolesley variant of the Riley, with an MGB 1800 lump in there as my first car. B Series thus broadly the same engine... HRG Derrington X flow head et al.

If I had it today, seems the head would be worth as much as the car.

Problem was, I was 17, pranged it in weeks...

Lester H

2,975 posts

110 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Such lovely small cars. Yes, they have been described as posh Morris Minors with a B Series twin carb engine but what is the modern equivalent? With their two tone leather seats, walnut fascia and door sills, they can't really be compared to a warmed over Fiesta. Also, it wasn't silly money like the Aston Martin Cygnet, and it had its own body along the lines of a small Austin Cambridge pre 1959.


Edited by Lester H on Monday 10th October 22:31

coppice

8,835 posts

149 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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I loved them too - they were compact , reserved but classy and had a hint of sporting sass too. A sort of Home Counties Lancia . I'm biased -my first car was a Riley 1300 which had a surprising turn of speed , thanks to its slightly detuned Cooper S engine. Its wood dash now seems quaint, but my 22 year old self deluded himself into thinking he cut quite a dash in it. What hot girl could resist a maroon Riley with a Hesketh racing sticker and an Astrali wheel ? Quite a few, as it turned out ...

Riley Blue

21,432 posts

231 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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Lester H said:
Such lovely small cars. Yes, they have been described as posh Morris Minors with a B Series twin carb engine but what is the modern equivalent? With their two tone leather seats, walnut fascia and door sills, they can't really be compared to a warmed over Fiesta. Also, it wasn't silly money like the Aston Martin Cygnet, and it had its own body along the lines of a small Austin Cambridge pre 1959.


Edited by Lester H on Monday 10th October 22:31
Funny you should mention a warmed over Fiesta; to add to my two One-Point-Fives I've just added... a warmed over Fiesta!

Today, the Riley doesn't seem luxurious and it requires far more concentration and input to drive 'briskly' but it is hugely enjoyable when doing so. After our previous Fiesta was written off at the end of July we wanted to replace it with something of similar size but with a few of the 'toys' in our A8 and I wanted a car with conventional controls; no touch screen, electronic hand brake etc.

Also, it would need to petrol (previous was diesel) and, like the Riley, it would have to be sprightly but modest in appearance. The previous Fiesta had stood up well to a frontal assault by a Defender, we had emerged relatively unscathed, so that was our preferred choice; we went for a Fiesta Titanium X (123bhp, 0-60 in 9.1).

It doesn't have a walnut fascia but it does have leather seats (heated too which O/H loves) and something that I rather like, it's one of thousands of white Fiestas around so blends in perfectly with the herd, rather like the Riley did in its day.