Old cars in old photos

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MisterNick

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93 posts

26 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
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I've seen some of the" Id cars" threads on here and am aware that some of the Op's have quite a bit of knowledge themselves. This is the complete converse for me I'm afraid.
With time on my hands I have some old photos that i am going through and my eye is continually drawn to the cars.

Below is couple of examples.

I m not sure whether I should use different threads for each or just keep updating this thread. As its my first time I'll just post a couple first off

Many thanks for any help

I think this is my grandmother in Ireland. I'm trying to work out rough date, a location would be great




This is my mum in Looe. I think it is around 1957, and I think they owned the convertible. What is it and do you think my date is correct



Thanks in advance

Nick

moffspeed

2,849 posts

212 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
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The convertible…

Doesn't look like a British car to me. Large square rear number plate so ? American/French - circa mid 30's.

Very solid possibly faux hood irons, possibly a French Hotchkiss ??




john2443

6,385 posts

216 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
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First one - Morris 8, registered in City and County of Dublin between 1940 and 1947.

Second - looks like Looe, no idea about the car. Car behind your mum Austin Devon, 1947-52??
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Edited by john2443 on Sunday 14th August 21:24

fourfoldroot

600 posts

160 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
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moffspeed said:
The convertible…

Doesn't look like a British car to me. Large square rear number plate so ? American/French - circa mid 30's.

Very solid possibly faux hood irons, possibly a French Hotchkiss ??
Railton?

Allan L

793 posts

110 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
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moffspeed said:
The convertible…

Doesn't look like a British car to me. Large square rear number plate so ? American/French - circa mid 30's.

Very solid possibly faux hood irons, possibly a French Hotchkiss ??
In the inter-war and early post-war period lots of British cars had right-hand square rear numberplates as that was where the single tail-light was.
e.g. this MG TD at Silverstone

Roy C

4,190 posts

289 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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it looks like a pre-war convertible, so those are real hood irons.

TarquinMX5

2,018 posts

85 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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1st picture; car behind, Standard Vanguard (Phase 1)?

Is the second photo marked 'Looe'? It does look possible but whilst the car park looks similar, the church looks different. The year could be correct as the car behind the woman looks like a Hillman Husky, introduced in 1954.

john2443

6,385 posts

216 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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TarquinMX5 said:
Is the second photo marked 'Looe'? It does look possible but whilst the car park looks similar, the church looks different.
In this view, church left of the white van, centre screen - street view doesn't give a good view of it.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Looe/@50.3526518...

moffspeed

2,849 posts

212 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Roy C said:
it looks like a pre-war convertible, so those are real hood irons.
Possibly, but in the1930's the French were heavily into their "faux cabriolets" - hard tops with fake hood irons, this Hotchkiss being an example :






and this coach built Delage ..


Riley Blue

21,432 posts

231 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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The 1939 Riley Twelve Drophead and Sixteen Drophead were quite similar the the car shown: http://rileyrob.co.uk/specs/nuffield/12dhc.htm

vixen1700

23,846 posts

275 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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OP, You may well want to look through the three volumes of this thread:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

smile

ndtman

745 posts

186 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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2nd photo possibly a "Jaguar" SS1?

MisterNick

Original Poster:

93 posts

26 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Many thanks for taking the time to reply.

Through trying to document these old photo's, I have found myself looking at the cars and realising that I couldn't name the cars pre 1960 but quite intrigued as to what they are.
Vixen, I did view that thread you linked to but I thought they were more where posters knew the answers but were posting for interest sake.

Picture one. i realise I should have said that it is my grandmother. The trouble is I can find no record of holidays or travel to Ireland and was hoping for a date. As the car does not appear in other photos, I sort of thought it was probably a hire car. I then got to wondering what the other car is.

Picture two. The reason for my interest in the convertible is that my parents had a convertible when they were first married, and I haven't found any paperwork or photos yet. I think it would have been quite old, but I do think it would have been something more common. I seem to remember my dad referring to it as Bull something as the number plate was BUL ...
Its interesting that the car behind is a Hilman Husky as my grandad had one, but I think he had his after this picture was taken.
I have since found another version of the picture and it states "on the Prom Looe, 24/5/1955".

As I said I have a few more pictures I would like to seek views on. I shall carry on posting them here rather than the Period Classic Pictures thread unless I am not following etiquette

Again many thanks for your interest

Nick

nicanary

10,067 posts

151 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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The first car has been correctly identified as a Morris 8 Series E. The "convertible" could be almost anything. Even mass production makers would have a cabriolet of this style in their range,

I think it's quite a small car, not a Jaguar or Railton. It appears that there's a "bustle boot" which would cut down the possibilities. I was even considering leftfield choices like a British Salmson.

TarquinMX5

2,018 posts

85 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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john2443 said:
TarquinMX5 said:
Is the second photo marked 'Looe'? It does look possible but whilst the car park looks similar, the church looks different.
In this view, church left of the white van, centre screen - street view doesn't give a good view of it.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Looe/@50.3526518...
Agreed, thanks. I was thinking of the church further up towards the East/West road-bridge. Looe wink

TarquinMX5

2,018 posts

85 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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MisterNick said:
Picture two. The reason for my interest in the convertible is that my parents had a convertible when they were first married, and I haven't found any paperwork or photos yet. I think it would have been quite old, but I do think it would have been something more common. I seem to remember my dad referring to it as Bull something as the number plate was BUL ...
If you aren't already aware, BUL was a London number, issued Jan 1935 - Feb 1936 incl

Turbobanana

6,635 posts

206 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Looks an awful lot like a Humber 12 or 26 drophead coupe, but most of the pics I can find date them to 1937.

Old Merc

3,538 posts

172 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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How about a 1938 Lanchester 14.



Its got the stubby back with that number plate, door opens the same way.

Edited by Old Merc on Monday 15th August 18:23

Roy C

4,190 posts

289 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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Old Merc said:


How about a 1938 Lanchester 14.



Its got the stubby back with that number plate, door opens the same way.

Edited by Old Merc on Monday 15th August 18:23
I think you've found it. Lanchester 14 Roadrider De Luxe Drophead Coupé.

Also, the location of the semaphore arm, just behind the door.

Lanchester was owned by BSA after 1930, so the cars were built by Daimler at Coventry.

Turbobanana

6,635 posts

206 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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Roy C said:
Old Merc said:


How about a 1938 Lanchester 14.



Its got the stubby back with that number plate, door opens the same way.

Edited by Old Merc on Monday 15th August 18:23
I think you've found it. Lanchester 14 Roadrider De Luxe Drophead Coupé.

Also, the location of the semaphore arm, just behind the door.

Lanchester was owned by BSA after 1930, so the cars were built by Daimler at Coventry.
Only problem is the pram irons go the wrong way...