Wrong registration number
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Hi again,
My second question of the day... Same car.
The car I'm considering was first registered in 1954 yet it has a 1963 registration number and has had it for at least 40 years. I know what the original number was and this is now on a different vehicle.
So I'm wondering how was it possible for the car to be given a newer plate? Also, will DVLA give me a correctly aged plate if I ask when I register the car in my name or would I have to buy one privately?
Thanks
Bob
My second question of the day... Same car.
The car I'm considering was first registered in 1954 yet it has a 1963 registration number and has had it for at least 40 years. I know what the original number was and this is now on a different vehicle.
So I'm wondering how was it possible for the car to be given a newer plate? Also, will DVLA give me a correctly aged plate if I ask when I register the car in my name or would I have to buy one privately?
Thanks
Bob
The DVLA used to issue A plates to vehicles when doing cherished transfers, they then started to issue more age appropriate non transferable numbers if you took a 'dateless' plate off a vehicle from unissued number sequences (usually Scottish numbers RSK 123 for example)
It's hard to give you a definitive answer, so here are some possible options
If you want to keep the plate you currently have as part of the vehicles history / put it on something else and it doesn't say it's non transferable on the V5 then you need to take it off before you do anything else, you might be able to use the DVLA online system, you might be lucky in that when you pay the £80 fee to put your current plate on a retention certificate you automatically get a more appropriate dateless plate assigned to the car on a non transferable basis.
If you don't take the current plate off onto a retention certificate it should be held on the system for you, but if you ever want it back it would (usually) go on as non transferable
If the plate is non transferable you would probably be better off contacting the DVLA to request a dateless plate, they may or may not charge you for this change for another non transferable plate (the £80) at one point they were free to change, I'm not sure if this is the case now
It's hard to give you a definitive answer, so here are some possible options
If you want to keep the plate you currently have as part of the vehicles history / put it on something else and it doesn't say it's non transferable on the V5 then you need to take it off before you do anything else, you might be able to use the DVLA online system, you might be lucky in that when you pay the £80 fee to put your current plate on a retention certificate you automatically get a more appropriate dateless plate assigned to the car on a non transferable basis.
If you don't take the current plate off onto a retention certificate it should be held on the system for you, but if you ever want it back it would (usually) go on as non transferable
If the plate is non transferable you would probably be better off contacting the DVLA to request a dateless plate, they may or may not charge you for this change for another non transferable plate (the £80) at one point they were free to change, I'm not sure if this is the case now
Sounds like someone moved the reg onto another car, or sold it, and DVLA issued another plate - there was a point when they issued XYZ 123A style to anything old - there are some A plate Veterans.
Later on they started issuing Age Related numbers using ranges that were never issued, so there are lots of Scottish SU, SV, and Welsh FF, FOs around, may be others, those are the ones I can remember.
DVLA have become less flexible about issuing plates in recent years, you might be able to get an age related one if you have proof that it's a 1954 car, but might be less hassle to just buy one, and that would look more authentic - SU, SV etc stand out as non original.
Later on they started issuing Age Related numbers using ranges that were never issued, so there are lots of Scottish SU, SV, and Welsh FF, FOs around, may be others, those are the ones I can remember.
DVLA have become less flexible about issuing plates in recent years, you might be able to get an age related one if you have proof that it's a 1954 car, but might be less hassle to just buy one, and that would look more authentic - SU, SV etc stand out as non original.
Edited by john2443 on Sunday 26th July 09:17
GTBob said:
Hi again,
My second question of the day... Same car.
The car I'm considering was first registered in 1954 yet it has a 1963 registration number and has had it for at least 40 years. I know what the original number was and this is now on a different vehicle.
Is it current '1963' reg number in the ABC 123A format, or a 123 ABC format?My second question of the day... Same car.
The car I'm considering was first registered in 1954 yet it has a 1963 registration number and has had it for at least 40 years. I know what the original number was and this is now on a different vehicle.
As said already, owner sold the original plate and then DVLA issued a new one.
You won't get another one from DVLA.
If the car has a ABC 123A suffix reg number, you will have to buy an appropriate non-suffix 'dateless' plate from one of the reg number traders if that is what you want.
GTBob said:
So I'm wondering how was it possible for the car to be given a newer plate?
It's only relatively recent that DVLA would insist on not making a car look newer than it is. I imported a 1976 car in 1981 and was given a then-current X registration number. I think that was normal practice at the time.Gassing Station | Classic Cars and Yesterday's Heroes | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff