Buying pre war from dealer

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crankedup

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25,764 posts

250 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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looking at car tomorrow, what would be a realistic and reasonable sum to offer in form of discount, or more crudely 'to try and knockdown price'. I don't want to insult but of course want to get best deal.

pzero64

2,091 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Start at 20 shillings and see if his eyes water.

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

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Thursday 12th May 2005
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Blimey! its only 15 bob to start

ARH

1,222 posts

246 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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treat it like the purchase of any car. The big problem is that no one really knows how much they are worth. When ever I have bought a classic or pre-war I haggle just the same as I would for a ford focus. Don't often get the same shift in price for an older car though.

crankedup

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Friday 13th May 2005
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Thanks ARH, was'nt sure at all regarding the haggle, so good to hear from experience and I now know that asking for 12% won't be to ridiculas and maybe hope for 8 or 9%.

Had to put the viewing off today as my Daughter has decided to stop over with us for a long weekend.

ettore

4,322 posts

259 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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What is it?

crankedup

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Friday 13th May 2005
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I have 2 in mind, can only buy one tho.

The LM 14/40 which I have been eyeing for ages and a Delage DR70 saloon of 1929 vintage.

The Vauxhall seems to be much more original throughout but has had mechanical extensive recent work. Its a very attractive car (IMHO) and would be a pleasure to own I'm sure.

The Delage is extremely attractive, to my eyes, but lacks all important history, altho some is available I understand. The engine and coachwork have had recent renovation work to high standard but no paperwork to support this. Apparently it was a garage owners car and he had his staff do the work for him in the quite times in garage. The car is alot more expensive than the LM but I feel has more 'stature' for weddings and such like work. Its at www.avonvale.com

I have decisions to make it seems.

ettore

4,322 posts

259 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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Whereabouts is the Vauxhall, Orchid Cars?

crankedup

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Friday 13th May 2005
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Yes its the light blue with red interior. Altho there is also another 14/40 for sale at www.watersideclassics.co.uk

Unfortunately I am not at all struck by the colour nor the interior re-trim. And of course its not a 'Tophat'.

Its alot easier to buy a new car (apart from the cost) than seeking out a good pre-war. But not half as much fun nor interest.

tvrgaas

1,469 posts

277 months

Saturday 14th May 2005
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ARH said:
no one really knows how much they are worth.
One issue is many 'dealers' these days are "brokers" and are selling on commission.

To get a quick comparable I'd look at the other ads on Prewarcars (a black over Maroon Top Hat is listed - might be worth an e-mail) and do a search on Motorsnippets to see the auction (trade) price.

If I was considering a Vauxhall I'd to talk to someone like Julian Ghosh, past president of the VSCC, who is mainly into 30/98, but should be able to give a pointer or two.

Have you done any test drives/rides yet?

crankedup

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Saturday 14th May 2005
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Hi TVRGAAS, have'nt done the test drives yet, I am now hovering on the brink, so to speak. Got my funds all in place now and ready to buy. Not driven any pre-war at all unfortunately, which makes it even more difficult to assess i guess.

The dealers are miles away so it is a full day to have a look at each car. I was considering paying for a pro' inspection by someone like classsic assesments but that will cost me around £700 for two cars. Think I should decide which to go for and then perhaps have that inspected. A mistake is something I cannot afford to make, I notice it is'nt easy to sell pre war cars, even dealers seem to have stock for month after month in some cases. Perhaps the market is a bit slow at the moment.

al nz

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234 months

Sunday 22nd May 2005
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for my 2 cents' worth...
dont rush a small Vauxhall, but try an Alvis 12/50 - godd lively performance for 1600cc, revs well by 1920s standards.
I grew up with a 30-98 and a 12/50 - dad still has the 12/50, and its a great little goer. I'd recommend the 30-98 over most other vintages (they really do go) even the Ubiquitous Le Mans Replica Bentley, but I digress...
try a good 12/50 before you buy a 14/40, you might be pleasantly surprised.

crankedup

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Sunday 22nd May 2005
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Thanks for that nz, its certainly a minefield out there. The car will have to earn its keep as well as provide my driving pleasure so some lovely cars are not in the ball park for me. Oh and budget is another little issue