The De Tomaso is now on its way!
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In a recent thread I was asking about the logistics of bringing over a De Tomaso Deauville from Melbourne Australia, I have bitten the bullet!
For those who have even the faintest passing interest in this type of thing I will endeavour to keep you updated with how this adventure unravels itself and hopefully how you can source rust free exotica in RHD form from the other side of the world.
Presently the costings look something like
Car - £10,000
Shipping - £500
VAT & Duty - £3000
Insurance - £200
Obviously once it gets here there will be a few extra quid to get it licensed and moved from Tilbury to Suffolk
And here it is!
www.brooklands.com/car_detail.cfm?id=272
Fortune as the saying goes favours the brave!
For those who have even the faintest passing interest in this type of thing I will endeavour to keep you updated with how this adventure unravels itself and hopefully how you can source rust free exotica in RHD form from the other side of the world.
Presently the costings look something like
Car - £10,000
Shipping - £500
VAT & Duty - £3000
Insurance - £200
Obviously once it gets here there will be a few extra quid to get it licensed and moved from Tilbury to Suffolk
And here it is!
www.brooklands.com/car_detail.cfm?id=272
Fortune as the saying goes favours the brave!
A few other snippets of information for you.
As part of this adventure I have also joined the de Tomaso Drivers Club which at £70 for the year gets you a very well put together magazine three times a year and various opportunities to attend club meets. As far as I am aware the chap that does the club website is a fairly regular contributor around Pistonheads. I also got a personally written letter from the chairman on joining and he has also provided useful information on the purchase already.
What has come to light is that of the 17 Deauvilles known, 9 can be accounted for in Great Britain so it is indeed a very rare bit of kit. There was a RHD car sold in Sweden last year and evidently there is a real minger of project car which is in theory for sale but the owner requires £7k for it and would need a huge lump of lolly to bring it up to standard
The car in general, Craig, you are quite correct, it does indeed look as though it is in part a Maserati. At the time these were being made De Tomaso who owned Maserati (note not the other way round) this marriage spawned the De Tomaso Longchamp which was re-engined as a Maserati Kyalami and the De Tomaso Deauville which had the same under pinning as a Quatroporte III sharing chassis and interior details.
The technical specification of a Deauville looks something like this
Produced 1971 -1989
Total produced – 353
Powered by – V8 5.7 Ford Cleveland
Styled by - Tom Tjaarda for Ghia, he of Pantera fame
Top speed- 150 mph +
And this is how a really good one looks
In essence these were intended to compete with the likes of a 450 6.9 or a Series III V12 Jag which as you can see many styling cues were taken. However bearing in mind a price of over £100k by today’s standards perhaps a Ferrari 400 or an Espada was where this was really aiming?
As part of this adventure I have also joined the de Tomaso Drivers Club which at £70 for the year gets you a very well put together magazine three times a year and various opportunities to attend club meets. As far as I am aware the chap that does the club website is a fairly regular contributor around Pistonheads. I also got a personally written letter from the chairman on joining and he has also provided useful information on the purchase already.
What has come to light is that of the 17 Deauvilles known, 9 can be accounted for in Great Britain so it is indeed a very rare bit of kit. There was a RHD car sold in Sweden last year and evidently there is a real minger of project car which is in theory for sale but the owner requires £7k for it and would need a huge lump of lolly to bring it up to standard
The car in general, Craig, you are quite correct, it does indeed look as though it is in part a Maserati. At the time these were being made De Tomaso who owned Maserati (note not the other way round) this marriage spawned the De Tomaso Longchamp which was re-engined as a Maserati Kyalami and the De Tomaso Deauville which had the same under pinning as a Quatroporte III sharing chassis and interior details.
The technical specification of a Deauville looks something like this
Produced 1971 -1989
Total produced – 353
Powered by – V8 5.7 Ford Cleveland
Styled by - Tom Tjaarda for Ghia, he of Pantera fame
Top speed- 150 mph +
And this is how a really good one looks
In essence these were intended to compete with the likes of a 450 6.9 or a Series III V12 Jag which as you can see many styling cues were taken. However bearing in mind a price of over £100k by today’s standards perhaps a Ferrari 400 or an Espada was where this was really aiming?
vario-rob said:
A few other snippets of information for you.
As part of this adventure I have also joined the de Tomaso Drivers Club which at £70 for the year gets you a very well put together magazine three times a year and various opportunities to attend club meets. As far as I am aware the chap that does the club website is a fairly regular contributor around Pistonheads. I also got a personally written letter from the chairman on joining and he has also provided useful information on the purchase already.
What has come to light is that of the 17 Deauvilles known, 9 can be accounted for in Great Britain so it is indeed a very rare bit of kit. There was a RHD car sold in Sweden last year and evidently there is a real minger of project car which is in theory for sale but the owner requires £7k for it and would need a huge lump of lolly to bring it up to standard
The car in general, Craig, you are quite correct, it does indeed look as though it is in part a Maserati. At the time these were being made De Tomaso who owned Maserati (note not the other way round) this marriage spawned the De Tomaso Longchamp which was re-engined as a Maserati Kyalami and the De Tomaso Deauville which had the same under pinning as a Quatroporte III sharing chassis and interior details.
The technical specification of a Deauville looks something like this
Produced 1971 -1989
Total produced – 353
Powered by – V8 5.7 Ford Cleveland
Styled by - Tom Tjaarda for Ghia, he of Pantera fame
Top speed- 150 mph +
And this is how a really good one looks
In essence these were intended to compete with the likes of a 450 6.9 or a Series III V12 Jag which as you can see many styling cues were taken. However bearing in mind a price of over £100k by today’s standards perhaps a Ferrari 400 or an Espada was where this was really aiming?
It would look like a Maserati, being a stretched four-door version of the DeTomaso Longchamps, also known with the Maserati engine and badges as the Maserati Kyalami, and the Maserati Quattroporte III was based on the same Maserati, although the modifications to the design were carried out by Maserati in-house. Still, Maserati was owned by DeTomaso at the time.
Very mafiosi
I’m having it shipped by a company called Imorex based locally in Ipswich. The deal is £1500 to the dock in Felixstowe in its own container.
Unfortunately the shipping companies also have to deal with customs and excise on your behalf putting the cost up. For what it’s worth the advice previously given on this board was correct about re-importation relief.
If an item is deemed to be of significant rarity value then you can pay VAT at 5% and exempt from duty. This is called BTI (binding tariff relief) and applies to vehicles being re-imported back to the EU if made there in the first place.
Handy if your thinking of taking advantage of the tasty rates of exchange rates.
Unfortunately the shipping companies also have to deal with customs and excise on your behalf putting the cost up. For what it’s worth the advice previously given on this board was correct about re-importation relief.
If an item is deemed to be of significant rarity value then you can pay VAT at 5% and exempt from duty. This is called BTI (binding tariff relief) and applies to vehicles being re-imported back to the EU if made there in the first place.
Handy if your thinking of taking advantage of the tasty rates of exchange rates.
Many thanks Balmoral! It is though slightly stressful knowing the car is paid for, your waiting for the shipping company to collect it and you haven’t got a date when it is actually going to leave.
None the less, I’m sure it will be well worth it once she gets here. I can’t unfortunately see it being ready in time for Le Mans at this rate.
Time for a Pantera instead of the 993 me thinks!
As a foot note on this project if ever you do fancy owning a De Tomaso the drivers club are as friendly and as helpful a bunch as you could ever wish for.
None the less, I’m sure it will be well worth it once she gets here. I can’t unfortunately see it being ready in time for Le Mans at this rate.
Time for a Pantera instead of the 993 me thinks!
As a foot note on this project if ever you do fancy owning a De Tomaso the drivers club are as friendly and as helpful a bunch as you could ever wish for.
vario-rob said:
Many thanks Balmoral! It is though slightly stressful knowing the car is paid for, your waiting for the shipping company to collect it and you haven’t got a date when it is actually going to leave.
None the less, I’m sure it will be well worth it once she gets here. I can’t unfortunately see it being ready in time for Le Mans at this rate.
Oh no! That's no good! What do you have to get done to have it roadworthy for Le Mans? I was looking forward to seeing it there...
Watto BG and all!
As I write the De T is still in its container and should now have left Longbeech CA and is heading for the Panama Canal. About three or so weeks until she powers into Felixstowe
As for my tussle with Customs and Excise the swine have refused my application for BTI. When speaking to the bunch of charmers on the phone I was boldly informed that the department 198/xx@3#89-1//A were firmly of the view that ‘COMPUTER SAYS NO’ but that I could appeal. The reasoning or indeed lack of it was that the car is not over 30 years old and had not cost enough.
I am appealing and the thrust of the Vario-Rob parry is based on the following
• 244 were made
• 46 are accounted for
• The car cost £32k in 1982
• The car could need significant sums of loot spent on it
• There are 9 left in the UK
• I would have bought a pre 1975 car were any for sale but there weren’t so I didn’t
Ultimately all this amounts to p
g in the wind but I have always taken the view that it better to make the buggers life as hard as possible. They after all will not be the proud owners of a Deauville.
I have now put one photograph on my profile of the interior but if anybody is even vaguely interested I’ve got some more elsewhere
www.carcommunity.net/car.php?car_id=2155&cc_id=1&cc_op=community
More news as soon as it breaks, le Mans remains the target!
As I write the De T is still in its container and should now have left Longbeech CA and is heading for the Panama Canal. About three or so weeks until she powers into Felixstowe
As for my tussle with Customs and Excise the swine have refused my application for BTI. When speaking to the bunch of charmers on the phone I was boldly informed that the department 198/xx@3#89-1//A were firmly of the view that ‘COMPUTER SAYS NO’ but that I could appeal. The reasoning or indeed lack of it was that the car is not over 30 years old and had not cost enough.
I am appealing and the thrust of the Vario-Rob parry is based on the following
• 244 were made
• 46 are accounted for
• The car cost £32k in 1982
• The car could need significant sums of loot spent on it
• There are 9 left in the UK
• I would have bought a pre 1975 car were any for sale but there weren’t so I didn’t
Ultimately all this amounts to p
g in the wind but I have always taken the view that it better to make the buggers life as hard as possible. They after all will not be the proud owners of a Deauville. I have now put one photograph on my profile of the interior but if anybody is even vaguely interested I’ve got some more elsewhere
www.carcommunity.net/car.php?car_id=2155&cc_id=1&cc_op=community
More news as soon as it breaks, le Mans remains the target!
Balmoral Green said:
le Mans remains the target!
Gotta share a beer Rob, I have just seen that you are a Monteverdi fan, me too.
Edited to say, not share a beer, we can run to a whole one each
>> Edited by Balmoral Green on Wednesday 23 March 19:20
BG,
Beer is good, Bury St Edmunds is after all the home of Greene King!
Hanundiers perhaps? Might I suggest the Friday morning as I know fellow Pistonheader ‘GT5S’ will also be keen to discuss all things De Tomaso as well.
We now have our own Monteverdi thread. I wait to see how many of our fellow site members join in on this one as I fear this might well be the very bottom of the obscure car barrel! The sort of car you aspire to when a Lynx Eventer is just so very common wouldn’t you say?
Monteverdi 375 - a fine looking car!
I love the interior of your Deauville - not quite as gauche as a Quattroporte, but plenty of gangster (as opposed to gangsta) charm...
I see Justin Banks currently has a Facel Vega for well under £20K - surely a challenge in the pointlessly opulent stakes?
I love the interior of your Deauville - not quite as gauche as a Quattroporte, but plenty of gangster (as opposed to gangsta) charm...
I see Justin Banks currently has a Facel Vega for well under £20K - surely a challenge in the pointlessly opulent stakes?
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