The only Lotus not revered?

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crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

250 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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Would appear to be the Excel 1981 - 1991 approx.

Why this should be I have no idea, it is a great car to drive if slightly wanting a tad more power. Lovely interior good styling and reliable.

So why is this car always at the back of the Q ?

I've had a hankering for one of these for about 16 years now but never got around to buying one.

mustard

6,992 posts

252 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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same reason 928's fetch peanuts to 911's

Mondials fetch buttons compared to 308/328's


Everyone goes for the Esprit in preferance to the Excel

less seats = more money!

v8thunder

27,646 posts

265 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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No idea why they're not as revered, seeing as though they're the first of the 'reliable' Lotuses. Also, they have class - the sort of presence - especially in a dark colour - that a Ferrari 456 has nowadays.

sparkey

789 posts

291 months

Sunday 28th November 2004
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Within Lotus circles (Club Lotus etc) they are revered and sought after. I had a '79 Elite which is also a less popular Lotus, but a great car (lacking a bit of power). At least the fact that they're not in fashion at present means that they can be bought for very little.

Steve

jhoneyball

1,773 posts

283 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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I loved my 91 Excel Celebration (one of the four painted in bright red rather than the Lotus Carlton green).

Fantastic thing

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

250 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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I remember correctly was this the 'run out' model? I recall test driving an Excel SE and was hugely impressed with the car. Balance and poise beyond reproach, if only they could have given it 200 - 210 bhp. Looking at what these cars cost now is beyond belief, practically giving them away.

jhoneyball

1,773 posts

283 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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yup -- needed tender loving care -- ate wheel rims like they were going out of fashion (the inner unsupported side buckled)

v8thunder

27,646 posts

265 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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crankedup said:
if only they could have given it 200 - 210 bhp.


IMO they should've offered a turbo version, updated alongside the Esprit.

lanciachris

3,357 posts

248 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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I like the excels! a lot as it happens

Davel

8,982 posts

265 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Not many people liked the Europa, including me.

Thought it was a bit of an ugly duckling...

Pigeon

18,535 posts

253 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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I quite like them - mind you I don't object to the "flying buttresses" on the XJ-S either. I certainly wouldn't say no to one (not the Renault-engined version though).

Alpineandy

1,395 posts

250 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Pigeon said:

(not the Renault-engined version though).

Why?

Andrew Noakes

914 posts

247 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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v8thunder said:
IMO they should've offered a turbo version, updated alongside the Esprit.


At the time Lotus said the turbo engine wouldn't fit in the Excel, though that might just have been a convenient excuse.

marx

61 posts

242 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Always fancied one of these cars (like 20 years ago) and they're 2+2 so they're OK for those with kids. Seems the only 2+2 to keep its value is the 911?

Pigeon

18,535 posts

253 months

Saturday 4th December 2004
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Alpineandy said:

Pigeon said:

(not the Renault-engined version though).

Why?

Not so "pure", if that makes sense...

Corin Denton

8,759 posts

275 months

Saturday 4th December 2004
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lanciachris said:
I like the excels! a lot as it happens


Ditto

mustard

6,992 posts

252 months

Saturday 4th December 2004
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Make sure you buy one with a good engine!

Pistons are £800 each! (good job theres only 4) got one in the workshop where the cam belt let go, we are praying for the owner its left them untouched

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

250 months

Saturday 4th December 2004
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£800 for each piston

Is this the Renault engine, I presume it must be.

mustard

6,992 posts

252 months

Saturday 4th December 2004
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Lotus 2.2 Twin Cam engine, cars circa '88 I believe

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

245 months

Saturday 4th December 2004
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mustard said:
Lotus 2.2 Twin Cam engine, cars circa '88 I believe


Mustard old son,
I don't know who you work for, but you need to find another supplier for your pistons.
Yoiu can have special order pistons made for a lot less than that.
Lotus parts have consistently been the biggest rip off in the whole country, ever since the sixties.
A great deal of their stuff is simply mass produced parts from other vehicles reboxed and multiplied by 50 in price!!
Shop around and you'll get a pleasant surprise.