so, how old do they have to be..

[craigw]

I always fancied (funds permitting) spending 30 odd grand on cars i always wanted. not neccessarily expensive.

Just a brief list off the top of my head:

1.Lancia delta Integrale Evo
2.BMW E30 M3
3.Mecedes 560SEC
4.BMW M635
5.Porsche 968CS
6.Porsche 928S4
7.Lotus Esprit S1


thats it for now.

[clapham993]

Lynx Eventer
Integrale 16v
Golf GTi Mk1
Porsche 928
Range Rover 4 door c. 1982
Triumph Dolomite Sprint
Saab 99 Turbo
Lancia Fulvia
Citroen CX Turbo2
Mercedes 450 SEL 6.9

[crankedup]

I don't think a 'cut off point' to age of cars has been decided on. But my view is that if what I term modern classics are posted on here that may cross over into the specialist marque forums.

What are 'modern classics?' I would hate to try and define this,but someone here suggested anything pre-electronics, which seems sensible. I'm sure Ted will shift anything he feels is needed to be shifted

[minornut]

OLd enough that you can count all the fuses on 1 hand!

[clapham993]

crankedup said:

I don't think a 'cut off point' to age of cars has been decided on. But my view is that if what I term modern classics are posted on here that may cross over into the specialist marque forums. What are 'modern classics?' I would hate to try and define this,but someone here suggested anything pre-electronics, which seems sensible. I'm sure Ted will shift anything he feels is needed to be shifted

How about any car, irrespective of age, that has reached the bottom of its depreciation curve and is now appreciating in real terms

[ARH]

The average life span of a car is about 10 years, so anything over that is ok in my book.

The fuses point is a good one, my 1932 austin seven has 1 fuse.

[Jinx]

ARH said:

The average life span of a car is about 10 years, so anything over that is ok in my book.

Excellent a Forum for my Mondeo!!!

[crankedup]

That is exactly my worst nightmare to logon to this forum and read about the mundano

I would like to hear more of the Austin 7 tho

[Tuna]

How about the Fiat X1/9? It arguably led to the MR2 and from there to the Elise... um.. if you close your eye's and squint a bit..

[craigw]

mine was brill(at the time)

[900T-R]

I'd say anything out of production, and representing something that is not reflected anymore in the current range of the manufacturer, or cars that have set a benchmark for things to come (possibly both). So in my book, anything from Nineties RV8-engined TVRs and pre-GM Saabs to 'classic' Minis and aircooled Porkers go, but also lurid cream yellow Volvo 850Rs or whatever. If it stirs the soul in any way, and you cannot just go to a dealership and buy one off the shelf, it's a classic.

[ettore]

Well it`s a well known fact that proper cars weren`t built after 1930. However, I accept that this may be a minority view on PH, so I agree with the pre-electronics definition!

For my £30K - (well this week anyway)

Land Rover Series 2
Alfa Romeo 1750 GTV
Integrale (ignoring the electronics)
Austin Seven Ulster (oid)
Elan

and some form of sporty Mk1 Escort or perhaps a P5B coupe with the change.

[uriel]

Tuna said:

How about the Fiat X1/9? It arguably led to the MR2 and from there to the Elise... um.. if you close your eye's and squint a bit..

Had 2 and loved them both to bits.

[crankedup]

Have to be honest and say that I was hoping this forum would be restricted to pre 60's stuff.

Perhaps if Yesterdays Heros is really busy we might get a sub devision later

[v8thunder]

IMO a classic car has nothing to do with age and everything to do with sentiment. If a car is somehow superlative, or enjoyable to drive, or highly luxurious, or loaded with revolutionary gadgets, or a new step in safety features or packaging, then it is a classic. Admittedly, some unspecific cars can 'become' classic, often when they're old and rare (for example, the Cortina), but there are several classics on sale today - just look at the 'Future Classic' section of Classic Cars

[Marquis_Rex]

ARH said:

The average life span of a car is about 10 years, so anything over that is ok in my book. The fuses point is a good one, my 1932 austin seven has 1 fuse.

The fuse count definition narrows it down to badly engineered cars then!

Eg: 1980 Triumph Spitfire had 3 fuses I believe, where as a 1980 143 Bhp BMW 323i has 18!

[littlegearl]

well, its funny... although my car is 26 years old i don't really consider it a *classic*, probably because alot of them were made

its definately has classic status but its not as classic as my brother MG for example...

but, 1992 205 GTi is often refered to as a "classic car", which is something i agree with, though a 1992 cavalier would probably be referred to as a "heap of shit"... tricky one!

[Marquis_Rex]

littlegearl said:

well, its funny... although my car is 26 years old i don't really consider it a *classic*, probably because alot of them were made its definately has classic status but its not as classic as my brother MG for example... but, 1992 205 GTi is often refered to as a "classic car", which is something i agree with, though a 1992 cavalier would probably be referred to as a "heap of shit"... tricky one!

No offense to the MGB but it is raved on about soo much, I prefer your Mk 1 Cavalier and the very rare Centaur convertable derrivative (and doesn't have a beardy image). It handles reasonably well, has RWD, and had a futuristic shape, although sometimes I prefer the bluffer more conservative front of the Euopean Opel.
The original E21 BMW 323i (1975-1982) has sailed pretty much into obscurity over here but has become something of a cult in America and in mainland Europe. I think it's an underated car.

[900T-R]

clapham993 said:

Lynx Eventer

Yes, that one'll do nicely thanks, no need to wrap it...

[lanciachris]

Ah the eventer. I wonder what would have become of the hyper engineering upgrades to the eventer - noone will ever know, because on its first trip out the owner stacked it and wrote it off