1971 Morris Minor 1000 Resto thread (Maybe)
Discussion
Well as per title, I've finally got around to taking a look under/inside the Minor that I bought on a whim last summer, used for 2 weeks until the chassis fell apart (bodged plating).
It's been sat on 3x different driveways over the last 9months and is now out of MOT so me & a couple of mates have started poking & prodding in order to see how bad it is and whether it's worth saving.
Disclaimer The plan is to make it useable as a bit of fun, sort of a DD classic if you like, as my other classic is kept for nice jaunts. So will never be concourse.
Pics below of how it looked when bought last year
And one of it when I used it for work for a while:
So, after the above it then went to my mums aunts for storage, then moved house with me & the OH and then sat under a sheet/tarp clogging the patio for 5+ months, until Easter brought some free time, mid-way point on my welding course (useful I feel) and some warmer weather to work outside in.
Me & a mechanic mate started by poking & prodding, seeing what it'd need to get MOT, then 4 of us of mixed ability (ranging from BIL who is a complete clueless noob, to mech & MOT tester mate, with me & sparky mate in middle) started pulling panels off to assess the worst areas...... The rear
OSR wing off, fuel tank out as we needed to do some grinding of bolts, everything lathered in underseal:
With the wing off:
Upon closer inspection:
The OSF Chassis leg:
What fell off:
Underneath:
Some more of the rear:
The interior:
As we can see, rot is fairly well established in the "usual areas". Also it's had a blow-over respray of poorer quality than the original paint.
Plus points - Well it's been well used & loved mechanically. Yearly MOT's since the early 80s as far as paperwork is concerned, and I have 2x folscap folders full of paperwork for all sorts. It runs (well did) and drives really well, no rattles/bangs/knocks. Gearbox whines like a b
h, but is strong, easy to change and tight in feel, engine is responsive and perky (well for 1960s tech).
So, more investigation and proggling.
At present it needs both front chassis legs plating properly, spring hangers re-welding as poor job done, both rear inner arches, wings patching and about 4x 3" by 3" plates on various areas of the sills/floor.
Rear wings are suprisingly good barring 1" of rot at the end of each, they'll be repaired.
It's been sat on 3x different driveways over the last 9months and is now out of MOT so me & a couple of mates have started poking & prodding in order to see how bad it is and whether it's worth saving.
Disclaimer The plan is to make it useable as a bit of fun, sort of a DD classic if you like, as my other classic is kept for nice jaunts. So will never be concourse.
Pics below of how it looked when bought last year
And one of it when I used it for work for a while:
So, after the above it then went to my mums aunts for storage, then moved house with me & the OH and then sat under a sheet/tarp clogging the patio for 5+ months, until Easter brought some free time, mid-way point on my welding course (useful I feel) and some warmer weather to work outside in.
Me & a mechanic mate started by poking & prodding, seeing what it'd need to get MOT, then 4 of us of mixed ability (ranging from BIL who is a complete clueless noob, to mech & MOT tester mate, with me & sparky mate in middle) started pulling panels off to assess the worst areas...... The rear
OSR wing off, fuel tank out as we needed to do some grinding of bolts, everything lathered in underseal:
With the wing off:
Upon closer inspection:
The OSF Chassis leg:
What fell off:
Underneath:
Some more of the rear:
The interior:
As we can see, rot is fairly well established in the "usual areas". Also it's had a blow-over respray of poorer quality than the original paint.
Plus points - Well it's been well used & loved mechanically. Yearly MOT's since the early 80s as far as paperwork is concerned, and I have 2x folscap folders full of paperwork for all sorts. It runs (well did) and drives really well, no rattles/bangs/knocks. Gearbox whines like a b
h, but is strong, easy to change and tight in feel, engine is responsive and perky (well for 1960s tech).So, more investigation and proggling.
At present it needs both front chassis legs plating properly, spring hangers re-welding as poor job done, both rear inner arches, wings patching and about 4x 3" by 3" plates on various areas of the sills/floor.
Rear wings are suprisingly good barring 1" of rot at the end of each, they'll be repaired.
Edited by NotDave on Tuesday 9th April 10:03
Floor & front end are OK on mine, as is the "tub" under the rear seats.
Majority of the time/material is needed on the inner wings at the rear.
I'm in no rush, only doing it as:
a) I wanted to learn
b) I'd got bored of tuner cars
and
c) the Minor had been stuck on a local dealers "trade in" zone for 3months and I was sick of driving past it, looking neglected with flat tyres and sat out in the rain
Majority of the time/material is needed on the inner wings at the rear.
I'm in no rush, only doing it as:
a) I wanted to learn
b) I'd got bored of tuner cars
and
c) the Minor had been stuck on a local dealers "trade in" zone for 3months and I was sick of driving past it, looking neglected with flat tyres and sat out in the rain
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this is a friendly forum for minors from mild to wild.
Pete
NotDave said:
mid-way point on my welding course (useful I feel)
Something you might not pick up on your welding course when dealing with manky old body work, clean it, clean it, clean it, your welding will be much easier and a better result.Nice Moggy, we've got 2, Moggington and Bottomley.
NotDave said:
Bugger, I suspected this may be the case.
Wire wheel to get rid of the under-seal?
One of those knotted ones you see in halfrauds coupled with an angle grinder made a good job of the underside of my B GT. Despite covering up as best as I could I still came out looking like a chimney sweep - not much fun but got the job done... what I discovered then caused me to cut the floor out Wire wheel to get rid of the under-seal?
SPT28 said:
One of those knotted ones you see in halfrauds coupled with an angle grinder made a good job of the underside of my B GT. Despite covering up as best as I could I still came out looking like a chimney sweep - not much fun but got the job done... what I discovered then caused me to cut the floor out
Ahh I have one of those, brand new from local industrial supplier. As for the chimney sweep look I achieved that last weekend with it melted to my scalp. Lesson learnt, rompa suit & cheap hat next time around.As for those holes...........hmmm. To be continued....
Good on you for attacking the project, certainly daunting the first project that you are planning on welding.
I'm in a similar position with restoring a singer chamois coupe. Thought it would be a simple tart up, oh how wrong was i. I couldn't weld so took myself off to night school for a 10 week welding course and just attacked the car. With 2 new inner and outer sills 2 new inner and outer rear arch's, i'm getting there!
I'm in a similar position with restoring a singer chamois coupe. Thought it would be a simple tart up, oh how wrong was i. I couldn't weld so took myself off to night school for a 10 week welding course and just attacked the car. With 2 new inner and outer sills 2 new inner and outer rear arch's, i'm getting there!
Another update:
Saturday afternoon I fetched the 2x FG wings, both have been on a car previously, holes/fixings etc line up and shouldn't take much to make them mint.
So that's some positive news. Paid £20 for the pair in the end.
In the morning I got busy with the grinder and found:
Which turned out to be covering up this:
By way of these mastic/bonded on:
Which when removed, let me get the wing off properly so it now looks like:
Hopefully can get on it again tomorrow and see whats left.
Saturday afternoon I fetched the 2x FG wings, both have been on a car previously, holes/fixings etc line up and shouldn't take much to make them mint.
So that's some positive news. Paid £20 for the pair in the end.
In the morning I got busy with the grinder and found:
Which turned out to be covering up this:
By way of these mastic/bonded on:
Which when removed, let me get the wing off properly so it now looks like:
Hopefully can get on it again tomorrow and see whats left.
Another wee update, more for records purposes than anything else. Got on the car again yesterday for a couple of hours, so removed some of the panels/bumpers/exhaust that are in the way for repairs to take place. So pictures below:
Boot gone off into storage:
Front bumper gone, a) to see how bad behind it and b) to allow for hot-rod look when done:
Over all it's not as bad as expected in some ways, worse in others. Welder is now wired into the garage, so when weather/time allows a sheet of 2-3mm steel will be purchased, then the process of making templates and cutting steel to shape will begin.
Followed by grinding back the areas in need of love, and butt-welding them in.
Boot gone off into storage:
Front bumper gone, a) to see how bad behind it and b) to allow for hot-rod look when done:
Over all it's not as bad as expected in some ways, worse in others. Welder is now wired into the garage, so when weather/time allows a sheet of 2-3mm steel will be purchased, then the process of making templates and cutting steel to shape will begin.
Followed by grinding back the areas in need of love, and butt-welding them in.
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