The Kindness (and unkindness) of Strangers. + Lecky prob
The Kindness (and unkindness) of Strangers. + Lecky prob
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Today I went out in my Lancia Beta Spyder. I stopped to go to the cash machine. A pleasant bloke issued forth from a nearby house and admired the car, telling me that it's the same type and colour as his was several years ago. He then went to his shed, and produced two spare wing mirrors and two tail light units (all of these are like unicorn jobbies), in their original boxes, and refused to take any money for them.

Wootage!

This came one day after some scrote loosened all of the wheel bolts on the same car, I almost lost a wheel while driving, and, a bit shaken by that, I left the car parked with the top down and the keys in the ignition for a couple of hours, but got away with it. I have told this tale in more detail in a separate thread in General Gassing.

Other Lancia related fun today: I replaced a blown 16 Amp fuse that protects the radio, clock, and indicators. It had blown out when I put the internal fan on. All fine, but then.... the engine continued running after the key was removed. I removed the fuse, and the engine stopped. WTAF? Electrics: I have no clue. I can fix stuff if it responds to being hit with a large lump of wood, but electrics are the work of Beelzebub.

LANCIA:
Look, ANother Crappy Italian Automobile.
Looks A Nice Car, Involves Aggravation.
Leaky and Noisy, Corrosion Is Audible.
BETA: Baffles Even Trained Apprentices.

As for the electrics: I Think A Lancia, Yes?

Lotus 50

1,029 posts

194 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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I once had an Alfa 33 that would occasionally stop dead and refuse to re-start for a while... then 5-10 minutes later it would run and everything would be fine. I took it to a specialist who said "sometimes you're better off taking these to a priest rather than a mechanic"!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Or maybe even an Exorcist!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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From another Forum:-

"Re: Ignition fault with fuse intact, I suggest a fan relay stuck, and reverse feeding the ignition switch...... hence the blown fuse originally . Does it even have a fan relay?"

Sounds plausible, I reckon, but I know Jack. Sadly, not the sort of thing that I can fix by the use of Italian swear words.

IroningMan

10,598 posts

275 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Find fan relay, strike with lump of wood - right up your street.

16VJay

236 posts

248 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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90% of the electrical faults on the Deltas seem to be cured by cleaning up the two sets of earth tags in the engine bay. Do Betas have something similar?

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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I think that they may. The bloke who designed the wiring was committed to The Home for the Prematurely Bewildered many years ago.

As for lump of wood hittage - top tip. I will try tomorrow and report back on triumph or disaster.

plastic toad

170 posts

180 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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I had a Lancia Beta Spider 2ltr
It was a very quick and great handling car for it's day.
Unfortunately it rusted and the electrics were a nightmare !
When I put the indicators on and sounded the horn it replicated an abmulance sound !!!
It was a love hate relationship lol

mike

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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I would be disappointed if a 1981 Italian car did not have electrical craziness built in (Hell, my 2001 Alfa 156 has insane electrics). My Beta is pretty un rusty, and I lerrrve that twin cam engine. The gearbox is the same as that found in my 1980s French heap (Murena).

digger the goat

2,857 posts

174 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Breadvan....
You have too many cars that may prove problematic !
You need to sell me a matra.. wink

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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I shall ponder that idea, quite seriously. The Matra is going well. A few snags, but nothing major. Nosy bugger, it is, but in a good way.

ClaphamGT3

12,223 posts

272 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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So sorry to hear of the wheel nut scrote.

I didn't realise you we're a fellow Spyder owner! I remember the original owner of mine flagging me down in a car park and asking me for my address so he could send me the hood cover that he still had in his garage

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Lancia World, eh? We haz gotz moar luv.

PS: show me yours, and I'll show you mine.

16VJay

236 posts

248 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Mr. plastic toad's symptoms are exactly what you get if the earth tags need cleaning, it's because a component can't find the earth and so earths itself via something else, giving you crazy results!

I found this out when my first Delta gave me indicators when I tried the wipers. A good clean of the earth tags - they're a set of paired male Lucars all held on by a bolt - and a smear of vaseline and all is well from then on.

Made this an early job on my current integrale and it's been fine for years.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Hey, I like the sound of a job that involves smearing Vaseline. Who said that car maintenance couldn't be fun?

truck71

2,328 posts

201 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Reminds me of my college days. Bought a Beta Coupe for £60, white with martini stripes, as it had engine issues- when I went to collect it the head and ancillaries were in the boot. Trailered it home and set to work, turns out the head had a chip between two of the cylinders. Local engineering firm dropped a blob of weld and skimmed it. Re-assembled the engine (have you tried valve timing one of these, bloody fiddly job) new gasket set and off it went. Ran it for a few years during my education whilst all around had fiestas and metros- oddly women were not impressed with an Italian coupe as much as the fact it had electric windows..

Went through three head gaskets before I got the tightening sequence right but was great otherwise- sold for £450 to fund a Mk1 Golf Gti Campaign again with engine issues but that's another story.

Great cars Betas.


anonymous-user

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83 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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2 of us, with our then girlfriends, did a trip to Scotland in a Beta Spider back in 1984.

A little tight for 4-up but what a great trip!

Lovely car.

gforceg

3,525 posts

208 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Breadvan72 said:
Today I went out in my Lancia Beta Spyder. I stopped to go to the cash machine. A pleasant bloke issued forth from a nearby house and admired the car, telling me that it's the same type and colour as his was several years ago. He then went to his shed, and produced two spare wing mirrors and two tail light units (all of these are like unicorn jobbies), in their original boxes, and refused to take any money for them.
What a very nice chap. Maybe you could anonymously have a half case of a red Italian wine sent round. I reckon he'd get the message.

Make it a Spanna and he couldn't miss it!



anonymous-user

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83 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Anonymity would be good, but I know the address but not the name, and I happen to have some decent Italian reds in the garage rack so I will drop some round today.

Martin 480 Turbo

707 posts

216 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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This is what the internet is good for. Do report back after delivery.