A sad day for an old friend
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Hello all, my wife's grandfather's 1982 Astra failed it's MOT today. He has asked me to put it on ebay for him to get sell it off, but I must admit I don't really know where to start - I'll hold my hands up and admit to knowing very little about non-sporting cars from the early 80s!
The car is, I believe, a 1982 Vauxhall Astra 1.2L 3 door hatchback, it's an X Reg with 115,000 miles on it, which is only about 4000 miles a year. It has been in steady use though, several times a week, washed regularly and garaged all of it's life. Unfortunately, this has not been enough to protect it's early 80s British bodywork from the rust, and it has a fair bit of rust in the arches, patches on the doors etc, but now it has failed it's MOT for having a badly rusted sill on the driver's side beneath the door. It also failed for the front shocks having "negligible damping", which I disagree with as the car stops wobbling after the first rebound, not 3 or 4 rebounds like you normally see on a busted shock absorber. Either way, they quoted him £100 to replace them if he was interested in having the work done. It also has "spongy brakes", which according to it's owner, have always been spongy - I can't imagine a family car of this era having amazing brakes, but I think any sponginess could be cured with some fresh, decent quality brake fluid.
Unfortunately, the car is in fairly rough shape, even though the engine is solid - starts first time and runs like clockwork, which was galling to me when my Seat Leon Cupra R was sick on a weekly basis! It's the bodywork that lets it down, but it's not the kind of car that would be worth spending hundreds a year on catching all the rust as it happens.
I know the car has a lot of sentimental value, as the owner always said he'd be hanging up his keys when it eventually failed and MOT, and that day has come.
The garage that MOT'd the car suggested the owner stick it on ebay for £500 and hope a classic restorer buys it, but short of this happening I can't see there being much interest in it, it would just take too much money to get the bodywork done. As the cost of the ebay ad is relative to the price the item starts at, I wonder if it's worth aiming that high, it might be close to or just as valuable as scrap?




The car is, I believe, a 1982 Vauxhall Astra 1.2L 3 door hatchback, it's an X Reg with 115,000 miles on it, which is only about 4000 miles a year. It has been in steady use though, several times a week, washed regularly and garaged all of it's life. Unfortunately, this has not been enough to protect it's early 80s British bodywork from the rust, and it has a fair bit of rust in the arches, patches on the doors etc, but now it has failed it's MOT for having a badly rusted sill on the driver's side beneath the door. It also failed for the front shocks having "negligible damping", which I disagree with as the car stops wobbling after the first rebound, not 3 or 4 rebounds like you normally see on a busted shock absorber. Either way, they quoted him £100 to replace them if he was interested in having the work done. It also has "spongy brakes", which according to it's owner, have always been spongy - I can't imagine a family car of this era having amazing brakes, but I think any sponginess could be cured with some fresh, decent quality brake fluid.
Unfortunately, the car is in fairly rough shape, even though the engine is solid - starts first time and runs like clockwork, which was galling to me when my Seat Leon Cupra R was sick on a weekly basis! It's the bodywork that lets it down, but it's not the kind of car that would be worth spending hundreds a year on catching all the rust as it happens.
I know the car has a lot of sentimental value, as the owner always said he'd be hanging up his keys when it eventually failed and MOT, and that day has come.
The garage that MOT'd the car suggested the owner stick it on ebay for £500 and hope a classic restorer buys it, but short of this happening I can't see there being much interest in it, it would just take too much money to get the bodywork done. As the cost of the ebay ad is relative to the price the item starts at, I wonder if it's worth aiming that high, it might be close to or just as valuable as scrap?




He did say it was rare - the salesman told him at the time they were not selling many in that spec and a few blokes "in the know" tried to buy it on the spot at a petrol station a few years back. Might be worth a shot putting it on the bay with the reserve set at the scrap value, then if someone wants it they can have it, if not then at least he won't lose any money on the advert.
I'd say it is neither old enough or in good enough condition to guarantee its salvation.
They are starting to be interesting though and as a parts donor or a cheap intro to the classic car scene it will surely be good for someone.
Ebay for sure, but I think you'll be very luck to see £500. A good home and around £400 would be my bet.
They are starting to be interesting though and as a parts donor or a cheap intro to the classic car scene it will surely be good for someone.
Ebay for sure, but I think you'll be very luck to see £500. A good home and around £400 would be my bet.
A friend sold a similar Astra a few months ago, an '84 1.3 5-door with 34k on the clock as I remember, and there was little interest on Ebay. He got £500 for it in the end, with tax and MOT.
I'd try retro rides.
http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi
I'd try retro rides.
http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi
MX7 said:
A friend sold a similar Astra a few months ago, an '84 1.3 5-door with 34k on the clock as I remember, and there was little interest on Ebay. He got £500 for it in the end, with tax and MOT.
I'd try retro rides.
http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi
£500 for a car with only 34k miles and with tax and MOT - I think that gives you an idea of what a 115k miler with no hope of an MOT will bring. Stick it on ebay with a really low starting price - good luck I'd try retro rides.
http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi

People on here might bee interested.
http://www.mk1oc.com/forum/
Hell, I'd have a go if I had the space and the patience to weld. But with 2 Mk2s and a Nova I got enough rust on my drive already.
As said, rare shape, retro styling, it IS cool to a lot of people.
Those scruffy bits are nothing to a real enthusiast/ restorer.
Good luck.
http://www.mk1oc.com/forum/
Hell, I'd have a go if I had the space and the patience to weld. But with 2 Mk2s and a Nova I got enough rust on my drive already.
As said, rare shape, retro styling, it IS cool to a lot of people.
Those scruffy bits are nothing to a real enthusiast/ restorer.
Good luck.
[quote=Flares&Chestwig]Sorry, its awful and fail to see any upside, put it out of its misery.
PS...who fitted the aerial on the front wing...jeeze.
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Put an ad up on Gumtree last night, had about 25 emails and 10 offers in 2 hours, asked £350 for it. Got someone offering £300 and coming to pick it up tomorrow night. Really did not expect such a good response. The guy who is coming to get it is a classic Vauxhall collector who has a couple of MK1 Astras and some old Cavaliers. It's not my thing, or perhaps yours either but it proves that there are people out there who like this kind of thing.
PS...who fitted the aerial on the front wing...jeeze.
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Put an ad up on Gumtree last night, had about 25 emails and 10 offers in 2 hours, asked £350 for it. Got someone offering £300 and coming to pick it up tomorrow night. Really did not expect such a good response. The guy who is coming to get it is a classic Vauxhall collector who has a couple of MK1 Astras and some old Cavaliers. It's not my thing, or perhaps yours either but it proves that there are people out there who like this kind of thing.
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te.com - the lads there and on retrorides like all sorts of surprising stuff.