GT6 'v' TR6 'v' MGC GT
Discussion
For my next car I'm edging towards either a GT6, TR6 or MGC GT. I have driven a few GT6's and got on well with them but have wanted a TR6 for much longer.
My budget buys an absolute corker of a GT6 or an OK and roadworthy TR6 / MGC GT, that does not bother me. I have not, as yet, driven a TR6 or MGC GT.
What would you recommmend?
My budget buys an absolute corker of a GT6 or an OK and roadworthy TR6 / MGC GT, that does not bother me. I have not, as yet, driven a TR6 or MGC GT.
What would you recommmend?
V8Triumph said:
For my next car I'm edging towards either a GT6, TR6 or MGC GT. I have driven a few GT6's and got on well with them but have wanted a TR6 for much longer.
My budget buys an absolute corker of a GT6 or an OK and roadworthy TR6 / MGC GT, that does not bother me. I have not, as yet, driven a TR6 or MGC GT.
What would you recommmend?
Driven them all and owned all three at some time. Very different cars.My budget buys an absolute corker of a GT6 or an OK and roadworthy TR6 / MGC GT, that does not bother me. I have not, as yet, driven a TR6 or MGC GT.
What would you recommmend?
I would be looking at a Porsche 944 944 cabriolet or 944 Turbo depending on condition and price because they really do not rot being galvanised and are much better cars IMO. Or similar VAG classic for same reason.
I list the three:
1) Triumph TR6, but replace the Fuel injection with a better system,
2) MG CGT, finding one decently restored is a challenge, they evapourate,
3) Triumph GT6, interesting car liable to disintegrate from rust, really goof fun but the Achilles heel rear suspension with transverse tuck under problem is the Bete Nior for me. So easy to be caught out as I know to my cost!
The TR6 is head an shoulders above the other two.
Drove a couple of MGCs many years ago when I was into MGs, but found them heavy and pretty unpleasent to be honest. Admitedly they were only short drives, but it stuck in my mind how much I didn't like them.
Don't think I've ever driven any Triumphs at all.
Have you thought about TVR 3000Ms or Taimars?
Don't think I've ever driven any Triumphs at all.
Have you thought about TVR 3000Ms or Taimars?
vixen1700 said:
Drove a couple of MGCs many years ago when I was into MGs, but found them heavy and pretty unpleasent to be honest. Admitedly they were only short drives, but it stuck in my mind how much I didn't like them.
Don't think I've ever driven any Triumphs at all.
Have you thought about TVR 3000Ms or Taimars?
Agreed, better value/, better performance, better looks and rarer, Ford mechanicals. Against, what period are you into? GT6 & MGC are sixties, TR6 is 60s basis with 70's looks.Don't think I've ever driven any Triumphs at all.
Have you thought about TVR 3000Ms or Taimars?
A step further; very little wedge buys you a lot of wedge............
I of course prefer Triumphs, but just to respond to Staffan:
Steffan said:
1) Triumph TR6, but replace the Fuel injection with a better system
The fuel injection is actually not the weak spot it once was, provided you replace the fuel pump with a top quality Bosch kit (like the Revington kit) and the car has a good metering unit. From my experience the metering unit lasts about 15 years / 30,000 miles before needing replacementSteffan said:
2) MG CGT, finding one decently restored is a challenge, they evapourate,
Never driven one, I don't do MGs of any kind.Steffan said:
3) Triumph GT6, interesting car liable to disintegrate from rust, really goof fun but the Achilles heel rear suspension with transverse tuck under problem is the Bete Nior for me. So easy to be caught out as I know to my cost!
The tuck-under is NOT and issue on any GT6 Mk2, or most Mark 3s. It's not a problem on the very last Mk3s either, even though they went to a swing spring suspension. I used to drive mine like an idiot and never got into problems in that department. Bear in mind that the GT6 Mk 2 suspension is very similar to the Elan, and no one ever moans about Elan handling.Steffan said:
The TR6 is head an shoulders above the other two.
The TR6 is certainly much bigger than the GT6. I have a TR6 and miss the GT6, to be honest apart from the open top and more power there's not much between them. Avoid those other cars though...Steffan said:
V8Triumph said:
For my next car I'm edging towards either a GT6, TR6 or MGC GT. I have driven a few GT6's and got on well with them but have wanted a TR6 for much longer.
My budget buys an absolute corker of a GT6 or an OK and roadworthy TR6 / MGC GT, that does not bother me. I have not, as yet, driven a TR6 or MGC GT.
What would you recommmend?
Driven them all and owned all three at some time. Very different cars.My budget buys an absolute corker of a GT6 or an OK and roadworthy TR6 / MGC GT, that does not bother me. I have not, as yet, driven a TR6 or MGC GT.
What would you recommmend?
I would be looking at a Porsche 944 944 cabriolet or 944 Turbo depending on condition and price because they really do not rot being galvanised and are much better cars IMO. Or similar VAG classic for same reason.
I list the three:
1) Triumph TR6, but replace the Fuel injection with a better system,
2) MG CGT, finding one decently restored is a challenge, they evapourate,
3) Triumph GT6, interesting car liable to disintegrate from rust, really goof fun but the Achilles heel rear suspension with transverse tuck under problem is the Bete Nior for me. So easy to be caught out as I know to my cost!
The TR6 is head an shoulders above the other two.
A good MGC is a delight, a bad one is a pig.
Condition aside what can make the difference between good and bad?
Tyre choice and pressure.
Front suspension set up.
Greased front suspension.
Engine set up.
Basically you can get an MGC that just doesn't feel "right" and by spending no money make it feel right.
A lightly breathed on example of a C is a very rapid car indeed, far more solid feeling than a B to drive, you lose the scuttle shake and the bump steer, the engine is very lively and revvy with that glorious noise and torque. It doesn't feel heavy at all except parking and mine has a small steering wheel and wide tyres.
The Auto C is also underated I'm no auto fan but it suits the car well, so well that it's taken me a year to bring myself to convert mine and that's only because I want the fun factor of being able to push the back end out at will.
Condition aside what can make the difference between good and bad?
Tyre choice and pressure.
Front suspension set up.
Greased front suspension.
Engine set up.
Basically you can get an MGC that just doesn't feel "right" and by spending no money make it feel right.
A lightly breathed on example of a C is a very rapid car indeed, far more solid feeling than a B to drive, you lose the scuttle shake and the bump steer, the engine is very lively and revvy with that glorious noise and torque. It doesn't feel heavy at all except parking and mine has a small steering wheel and wide tyres.
The Auto C is also underated I'm no auto fan but it suits the car well, so well that it's taken me a year to bring myself to convert mine and that's only because I want the fun factor of being able to push the back end out at will.
dartissimus said:
vixen1700 said:
Drove a couple of MGCs many years ago when I was into MGs, but found them heavy and pretty unpleasent to be honest. Admitedly they were only short drives, but it stuck in my mind how much I didn't like them.
Don't think I've ever driven any Triumphs at all.
Have you thought about TVR 3000Ms or Taimars?
Agreed, better value/, better performance, better looks and rarer, Ford mechanicals. Against, what period are you into? GT6 & MGC are sixties, TR6 is 60s basis with 70's looks.Don't think I've ever driven any Triumphs at all.
Have you thought about TVR 3000Ms or Taimars?
A step further; very little wedge buys you a lot of wedge............
I have thought about a TVR 3000M or a Taimar and it's a sort of possible but just not sure if I really want to buy one, if you see what I mean?
I find TVR Wedges EXTREMELY uncomfortable to drive (I'm a 5'2" girl, lol) they seem to be made for tall people! I'm into 60's-70's cars
mehere said:
Also consider the MGB GT V8? -the 1973/74 factory chrome bumper version....
Super engine - much much lighter than MGC
hahaha, have you seen my profile .... Super engine - much much lighter than MGC
I don't want to buy factory V8 number 3 ... currently have a '74 chrome factory V8 and a '75 rubber factory V8 too ... though they do say great minds and all that Yertis said:
I of course prefer Triumphs, but just to respond to Staffan:
Thank you for the imput Steffan said:
1) Triumph TR6, but replace the Fuel injection with a better system
The fuel injection is actually not the weak spot it once was, provided you replace the fuel pump with a top quality Bosch kit (like the Revington kit) and the car has a good metering unit. From my experience the metering unit lasts about 15 years / 30,000 miles before needing replacementSteffan said:
2) MG CGT, finding one decently restored is a challenge, they evapourate,
Never driven one, I don't do MGs of any kind.Steffan said:
3) Triumph GT6, interesting car liable to disintegrate from rust, really goof fun but the Achilles heel rear suspension with transverse tuck under problem is the Bete Nior for me. So easy to be caught out as I know to my cost!
The tuck-under is NOT and issue on any GT6 Mk2, or most Mark 3s. It's not a problem on the very last Mk3s either, even though they went to a swing spring suspension. I used to drive mine like an idiot and never got into problems in that department. Bear in mind that the GT6 Mk 2 suspension is very similar to the Elan, and no one ever moans about Elan handling.Steffan said:
The TR6 is head an shoulders above the other two.
The TR6 is certainly much bigger than the GT6. I have a TR6 and miss the GT6, to be honest apart from the open top and more power there's not much between them. Avoid those other cars though... I am looking at a nice condition carb fed TR6 in all honesty as I don't really have the means to get a nice condition PI car.wildoliver said:
A good MGC is a delight, a bad one is a pig.
Condition aside what can make the difference between good and bad?
Tyre choice and pressure.
Front suspension set up.
Greased front suspension.
Engine set up.
Basically you can get an MGC that just doesn't feel "right" and by spending no money make it feel right.
A lightly breathed on example of a C is a very rapid car indeed, far more solid feeling than a B to drive, you lose the scuttle shake and the bump steer, the engine is very lively and revvy with that glorious noise and torque. It doesn't feel heavy at all except parking and mine has a small steering wheel and wide tyres.
The Auto C is also underated I'm no auto fan but it suits the car well, so well that it's taken me a year to bring myself to convert mine and that's only because I want the fun factor of being able to push the back end out at will.
Thank you for the defense of the C Condition aside what can make the difference between good and bad?
Tyre choice and pressure.
Front suspension set up.
Greased front suspension.
Engine set up.
Basically you can get an MGC that just doesn't feel "right" and by spending no money make it feel right.
A lightly breathed on example of a C is a very rapid car indeed, far more solid feeling than a B to drive, you lose the scuttle shake and the bump steer, the engine is very lively and revvy with that glorious noise and torque. It doesn't feel heavy at all except parking and mine has a small steering wheel and wide tyres.
The Auto C is also underated I'm no auto fan but it suits the car well, so well that it's taken me a year to bring myself to convert mine and that's only because I want the fun factor of being able to push the back end out at will.
I do quite fancy one but they seem to be going up in value all of the time! Could well be worth me trying a few so I know what a good one and bad one actually feel like. I've driven all manner of B's from very early roadsters, to very late GTs and V8's but I am aware they feel nothing at all like a B, despite looking similar.What 'box is in an auto C? BW35?
Buy a good Gilbern Invader with known Club history ........... something like this ...
http://www.classicandsportscar.ltd.uk/Gilbern-Inva...
It is a 35 yes, same as the Jag xj6.
Not a bad box if a little agricultural, but you can make it do what you want when you want, the crippling points to me are top gear is 1:1 so rubbish on motorway (same as manual non od) and the torque converter takes the sting out of the engine when you try to kick the arse out.
But on a fast country run it holds its own against much quicker stuff no problem.
Not a bad box if a little agricultural, but you can make it do what you want when you want, the crippling points to me are top gear is 1:1 so rubbish on motorway (same as manual non od) and the torque converter takes the sting out of the engine when you try to kick the arse out.
But on a fast country run it holds its own against much quicker stuff no problem.
mehere said:
V8Triumph said:
hahaha, have you seen my profile .... I don't want to buy factory V8 number 3 ... currently have a '74 chrome factory V8 and a '75 rubber factory V8 too ... though they do say great minds and all that
oooo - sorry about that I don't want to buy factory V8 number 3 ... currently have a '74 chrome factory V8 and a '75 rubber factory V8 too ... though they do say great minds and all that Just seen pics of yours in the MGB thread (must post my B experiences, lol) it looks gorgeous. Heres mine -
Red one doesn't always look like that, lol. The bug catcher scoop is not even fitted but it does run on a Weber carb so could be fitted. The blue one is very standard, running on original twin SU's.
V8Triumph said:
No problem Just seen pics of yours in the MGB thread (must post my B experiences, lol) it looks gorgeous.
Heres mine -
Red one doesn't always look like that, lol. The bug catcher scoop is not even fitted but it does run on a Weber carb so could be fitted. The blue one is very standard, running on original twin SU's.
They look good too .. .oddly enough, I also had TWO V8 until last year -- kept the red one - only 54000 miles etc... Just seen pics of yours in the MGB thread (must post my B experiences, lol) it looks gorgeous. Heres mine -
Red one doesn't always look like that, lol. The bug catcher scoop is not even fitted but it does run on a Weber carb so could be fitted. The blue one is very standard, running on original twin SU's.
V8Triumph said:
Still trying to talk myself into going to see a local Elan +2S as well ... got a potential ex-USA TR6, a potential 1 owner MGC GT and a couple of GT6's that I like the look of.
I'd rather have a UK GT6 than a US spec TR6, unless the TR has been converted to RHD and has some kind of non-US spec engine. US TR6s have a pathetic power-to-weight ratio.Gassing Station | Classic Cars and Yesterday's Heroes | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff