Ford XR2 valuation please
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White is the best colour for these. Mostly it depends on body condition really, they can look fine untill you look under the kit. I would get it running right, mot and tax it (so it can be test driven) it will be worth it. I rekon on £3k+ if it's solid and has descent photos and write up. It'll not be sold to a kid or someone unaware of what it is because 80's fords have a reasonable following and we all know they rust as a pastime so I know I would want to see lots of pics to secure the best price or even just a viewing on a car this age. Be aware that it's an awkward time of year to sell cars like this, in my experience.
Edited by RV8 on Tuesday 13th December 13:07
This ones done 11,500 miles and is about £1k with a long MOT
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
No MOT plus more work needed on yours - £500 if you're lucky???
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
No MOT plus more work needed on yours - £500 if you're lucky???
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C269323
£6k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-1-6-XR2-3DR-...
£5k
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C239905
£3k
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C266933
£2.9k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1988-F-FORD-FIESTA-XR2-/...
£2.4k
Thats not including the clubs where better examples may be for sale.
Like I said Mot, tax, service, valet, photoshoot. You got to speculate...
£6k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-1-6-XR2-3DR-...
£5k
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C239905
£3k
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C266933
£2.9k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1988-F-FORD-FIESTA-XR2-/...
£2.4k
Thats not including the clubs where better examples may be for sale.
Like I said Mot, tax, service, valet, photoshoot. You got to speculate...
My friends one is his mothers car from new so can confirm mileage etc.should be a sound car as garaged all its life.
sadly he can not do any mechanical work himself and has been quoted approx £600 for service, mot, and a clutch ?, possibly more if brakes need looking at.
Same garage has known the car from new, is a bit of a collector, and has bid him £800 as is.
As a side note, if that one on autotrader has done a genuine 11,500 miles it has to be worth a lot more than that, suggest its more like a miss printed 115k and that unless one owner and full history you could not prove.
sadly he can not do any mechanical work himself and has been quoted approx £600 for service, mot, and a clutch ?, possibly more if brakes need looking at.
Same garage has known the car from new, is a bit of a collector, and has bid him £800 as is.
As a side note, if that one on autotrader has done a genuine 11,500 miles it has to be worth a lot more than that, suggest its more like a miss printed 115k and that unless one owner and full history you could not prove.
If it hasn't been used for 3 years there's no knowing what will be needed to get it running plus an MOT. Brakes, clutch, tyres, water pump, electrics etc etc. All the high price examples listed by rv8 are running with histories and full MOTs etc.
An £800 offer for the car, as it is now, sounds about right. Once sorted it will of course be worth a lot more but I understood you were talking about what its worth today.
An £800 offer for the car, as it is now, sounds about right. Once sorted it will of course be worth a lot more but I understood you were talking about what its worth today.
That is the misfortune of not doing the work yourself. For him the cambelt, clutch, brakes etc will cost a fair amount to get done by someone else. That said the rot is usually the killer and if it is solid the rest is just spannering. £800 seems like a very good deal for the guy who's after it if it is isn't full of holes or covered in scabs as getting a rotten shell solid would cost more than that in welding and panels alone, then you've got the cost of a respray. I have seen plenty of good looking cars from this era in photo's but often under the over-sills and under the arch spats they are all the same - some golfs, 5 GT turbos, most of the sports fiesta's, all have arch spats and flared sills which often hide a miserable sight.
Edited by RV8 on Tuesday 13th December 14:32
Yes friend has to decide does he purchase from his 76 year old father and spend circa £600 on it for a nice car, or would he be better off spending say £1500 on a newer Ford KA.
Car sadly will be left on the street and used by his wife as a daily runaround.
He has recently parted company with an MGF which was a financial nightmare for him, head problems, cam belt, etc etc spent 1000's in the end for nothing, with redundancy looming he does not want a repeat of the same again.
If it were me I would fix up and use but he has no mechanical skills at all.
Car sadly will be left on the street and used by his wife as a daily runaround.
He has recently parted company with an MGF which was a financial nightmare for him, head problems, cam belt, etc etc spent 1000's in the end for nothing, with redundancy looming he does not want a repeat of the same again.
If it were me I would fix up and use but he has no mechanical skills at all.
Shame about the MGF, you just have to know when to cut your losses, but even that's a gamble.
Well I've been offered a few cars in the past for free some have been sat for a decade. Nothing fancy, 80's - 90's sheds. But then I looked at the work involved, then Insurance, Tax, MOT and to try and get any of that back (even if I did the work myself) I calculated it wasn't worth it not that many people want a mk2 astra 5 door in powder blue, or at least not enough to cover my costs and time. So I rejected them as money spinners, they'd be OK if I 'needed' another car but not worth doing to make money on. So it's a real pain if a half decent car comes your way but you have to get the work done elsewhere.
Things like this though are a bit more desirable than what I've been offered in the past so it might be worth the bother.
With regards to him looking for something reliable I might add, baring in mind his previous bad luck, if he is going for a Ka - look for rot! Look forward of the rear wheels inside the arch where it meets the sill, the sill itself along the seam and the fuel filler area. Also check for play in the front suspension and with P/S models if you hear whining from the rack combined with low fluid in the res the rack may be on it's way out - they had a bit of a reputation for this and it's not a cheap job to fix.
Have a quick look underneath and just poke about. The endura e engine sometimes suffers from stuck plugs so just have a look at the service history. Poor idle is due to the ICV which can be removed in a few moments and cleaned with petrol or renewed - they seem to suffer most of the car isn't used regularly. They are really good though and I think they handle better than the XR2 in a way, just without the poke. Looked after they are cheap to run and probably one of the better choices of older super mini - no cambelt either as all MK1 Ka engines are OHV.
Well I've been offered a few cars in the past for free some have been sat for a decade. Nothing fancy, 80's - 90's sheds. But then I looked at the work involved, then Insurance, Tax, MOT and to try and get any of that back (even if I did the work myself) I calculated it wasn't worth it not that many people want a mk2 astra 5 door in powder blue, or at least not enough to cover my costs and time. So I rejected them as money spinners, they'd be OK if I 'needed' another car but not worth doing to make money on. So it's a real pain if a half decent car comes your way but you have to get the work done elsewhere.
Things like this though are a bit more desirable than what I've been offered in the past so it might be worth the bother.
With regards to him looking for something reliable I might add, baring in mind his previous bad luck, if he is going for a Ka - look for rot! Look forward of the rear wheels inside the arch where it meets the sill, the sill itself along the seam and the fuel filler area. Also check for play in the front suspension and with P/S models if you hear whining from the rack combined with low fluid in the res the rack may be on it's way out - they had a bit of a reputation for this and it's not a cheap job to fix.
Have a quick look underneath and just poke about. The endura e engine sometimes suffers from stuck plugs so just have a look at the service history. Poor idle is due to the ICV which can be removed in a few moments and cleaned with petrol or renewed - they seem to suffer most of the car isn't used regularly. They are really good though and I think they handle better than the XR2 in a way, just without the poke. Looked after they are cheap to run and probably one of the better choices of older super mini - no cambelt either as all MK1 Ka engines are OHV.
I'd suggest the current value "as is" will be about right, give or take £200.
If he spends the money to re commission it, the car will deteriate being parked on the street.
I'd suggest he should use it for a couple of months, give it a proper clean and a good write up and it could do £3-4k on the open market.
It would be a shame to run it in to the ground, as they are getting rare/a bit collectable.
He could then get a better, more modern car that would suit his lack of mechanical ability.
If he spends the money to re commission it, the car will deteriate being parked on the street.
I'd suggest he should use it for a couple of months, give it a proper clean and a good write up and it could do £3-4k on the open market.
It would be a shame to run it in to the ground, as they are getting rare/a bit collectable.
He could then get a better, more modern car that would suit his lack of mechanical ability.
My friend had all the work done last week at a total of £600 odd, I didnt think that was too bad, new clutch, full service, and an MOT.
Is back in the garage awaiting collection after xmas.
Have suggested to use as a daily and see how it goes, then take some very nice pictures and put up for sale at $$$$$$ and see what happens.
Thanks for all the comments.
Is back in the garage awaiting collection after xmas.
Have suggested to use as a daily and see how it goes, then take some very nice pictures and put up for sale at $$$$$$ and see what happens.
Thanks for all the comments.
Since when does garaging a car mean it needs brakes and a clutch!!!!
Most "barn finds" are pretty mint which is basically what it is!
Ask on passion ford and get some enthusiast to look over it.
I will bet anything the garage owner knows its fine and is out to make a buck. get some pics up.
Most "barn finds" are pretty mint which is basically what it is!
Ask on passion ford and get some enthusiast to look over it.
I will bet anything the garage owner knows its fine and is out to make a buck. get some pics up.
You are right most dont need a new clutch but I've had them stick on cars that have been sat, sometimes they just never seem right afterwards - clutch judder and the like. I had an old escort and that was stuck fast, tried everything but nothing would free it. Boggy place that was, no way we could push it sliding around so I had to start it in gear to get it on the back of a trailer while gunning it, which the buyer turned up with without a winch, bloody nightmare.
You are wrong about barn finds usually being mint though, often half the reason they are in the barn* in the first place is because they needed some work or other and often they've just sat and got worse.
The arse of the car poking out of it in all weathers,
For a decade,
Hastily lashed tarp plonked on top helping keep the damp against the paint,
Window open and more cobwebs inside than a nuns....
You are wrong about barn finds usually being mint though, often half the reason they are in the barn* in the first place is because they needed some work or other and often they've just sat and got worse.
- there rarely is a proper 'barn' find, and even then there is not much desirable about trying to push a vehicle with flat tyres covered in acidic chicken plop. IME barn find usually means -
The arse of the car poking out of it in all weathers,
For a decade,
Hastily lashed tarp plonked on top helping keep the damp against the paint,
Window open and more cobwebs inside than a nuns....
Brake discs are a problem on a car that has not moved for a year or two , the problem being the pads stick on the disc and then the discs warp like an old 33RPM Record that has been stood at 45 degrees for a while (some of you will have to google that), no good if you want to stop in a reasonable manner. I have had some exciting experiences trying to break off stuck clutches too , sometimes the starter motor is never going to win and you just need sheer bravado and both/or even three feet down on the pedals and hope to god for the right outcome.
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