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RicksAlfas said:
CAPP0 said:
Just booked a trailer rental for 14th Jan to take mine somewhere to sort out the poor running issue. After that I can (try and) get it MOTd then decide what to do with it next!
Couldn't we sort it via this thread?i.e. we spend your money by guessing?
I'll start - stepper motor.
(Genuine AC Delco ones are on Amazon.com for about £60).
I keep a mint one on the shelf for checking RV8s. Very handy when you've always got a TVR or Rangie.
Edited by DonkeyApple on Thursday 5th January 16:29
OK, a bit of history and a bit of a confession from me....
History - the car had a new "everything" thrown at it before I bought it (knowing that it was running badly). I started a thread on here, probably over a year ago, and lots of people were extremely helpful at the time although it never got resolved. Then I changed jobs, we had a family situation arise, and I ran out of spare time, and it has basically sat around ever since.
The confession: for reasons which I can't even begin to fathom, during the aforementioned long thread, I never stated that the car has LPG fitted
I don't know why. I think I was just focused on it being something else. The system was, at the time, only 10 months old, fitted at a cost of £1900 (for which I have the receipt), which was more than I paid for the car. Anyway, despite speaking to the installer and completely disabling the LPG, it still won't start reliably and it runs like a dog once it is running.
I'll have to dig out the list of what it had new, but it includes AFM, stepper motor, fuel pump, distributor. Compression is not fabulous but reasonable (approx 155psi across all 8). I'm handing it over to a guy I know who will not give up until he solves it, but I'm going to give him carte blanche to rip the LPG system out if he thinks that's the way to go. (It'll make the welding easier too!! ) That said, I've sprayed carb cleaner everywhere when it's running, checking for leaks etc, and nothing came from that.
I think I did read somewhere that there was a faulty batch of "new" AFMs?
Someone else suggested ignition amp, but when I called Simon BBC to order another, the guy there said if there's a spark, it's not the amp. There is a spark, but it looks weak to me. Someone else said there is an air gap setting on the reluctor in the distributor which might need adjusting?
I'm still rather embarrassed that I never mentioned the gas before
History - the car had a new "everything" thrown at it before I bought it (knowing that it was running badly). I started a thread on here, probably over a year ago, and lots of people were extremely helpful at the time although it never got resolved. Then I changed jobs, we had a family situation arise, and I ran out of spare time, and it has basically sat around ever since.
The confession: for reasons which I can't even begin to fathom, during the aforementioned long thread, I never stated that the car has LPG fitted
I don't know why. I think I was just focused on it being something else. The system was, at the time, only 10 months old, fitted at a cost of £1900 (for which I have the receipt), which was more than I paid for the car. Anyway, despite speaking to the installer and completely disabling the LPG, it still won't start reliably and it runs like a dog once it is running.I'll have to dig out the list of what it had new, but it includes AFM, stepper motor, fuel pump, distributor. Compression is not fabulous but reasonable (approx 155psi across all 8). I'm handing it over to a guy I know who will not give up until he solves it, but I'm going to give him carte blanche to rip the LPG system out if he thinks that's the way to go. (It'll make the welding easier too!!
) That said, I've sprayed carb cleaner everywhere when it's running, checking for leaks etc, and nothing came from that.I think I did read somewhere that there was a faulty batch of "new" AFMs?
Someone else suggested ignition amp, but when I called Simon BBC to order another, the guy there said if there's a spark, it's not the amp. There is a spark, but it looks weak to me. Someone else said there is an air gap setting on the reluctor in the distributor which might need adjusting?
I'm still rather embarrassed that I never mentioned the gas before
the 4 door In Vogue is sold now dang it. £13k I suspect. I would have bought it if id hd the ready funds, it looked an absolute minter
https://www.flickr.com/photos/74935153@N07/albums/...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/74935153@N07/albums/...
squirdan said:
the 4 door In Vogue is sold now dang it. £13k I suspect. I would have bought it if id hd the ready funds, it looked an absolute minter
https://www.flickr.com/photos/74935153@N07/albums/...
13k for a mint in vogue?????https://www.flickr.com/photos/74935153@N07/albums/...
desolate said:
squirdan said:
A 4 door one. Yes
Seems more than reasonable to me - notwithstanding the post above regarding their relative value.. He's also a really pleasant person to hammer out a deal with. His core problem is that he is down in Devon so a bugger for most buyers to get to.
I reckon that £13k will turn out to be a cracking investment.
squirdan said:
I know, I just didn't have the money quickly enough
That could I feel sure have been on G Hunt forecourt next week for £28k, never mind long term investment
Yup. That could I feel sure have been on G Hunt forecourt next week for £28k, never mind long term investment
This one was the best 2 door I've ever seen: https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/74935153@N07/sets/72...
He'd just got it in when I was down there and was very excited as he'd just started removing the much from it to find it was completely rust free. It was sold by the son of the original owner who had bought it New and covered every inch of the underside and crevice with old oil and some goey black stuff like bitumen. The patina on the exterior was amazing and yet it was like New underneath. Apart from a massive clean up of the muck it just needed the interior done.
Check out the rear quarter photos where the paint has just been gently worn away. It's great.
I told him then that Graeme would get a silly price for him but I think he prefers doing it all himself.
desolate said:
Been smoking around in this.
Late 2 door 4 speed. A bit tatty around the edges but low mileage and drives superbly.
Perfect winter car for narrow country lanes with crappy surfaces.
The later gearbox and diffs make it a much nicer drive than the earlier cars.
love that. indefinable coolness that you cant buyLate 2 door 4 speed. A bit tatty around the edges but low mileage and drives superbly.
Perfect winter car for narrow country lanes with crappy surfaces.
The later gearbox and diffs make it a much nicer drive than the earlier cars.
CAPP0 said:
OK, a bit of history and a bit of a confession from me....
History - the car had a new "everything" thrown at it before I bought it (knowing that it was running badly). I started a thread on here, probably over a year ago, and lots of people were extremely helpful at the time although it never got resolved. Then I changed jobs, we had a family situation arise, and I ran out of spare time, and it has basically sat around ever since.
The confession: for reasons which I can't even begin to fathom, during the aforementioned long thread, I never stated that the car has LPG fitted I don't know why. I think I was just focused on it being something else. The system was, at the time, only 10 months old, fitted at a cost of £1900 (for which I have the receipt), which was more than I paid for the car. Anyway, despite speaking to the installer and completely disabling the LPG, it still won't start reliably and it runs like a dog once it is running.
I'll have to dig out the list of what it had new, but it includes AFM, stepper motor, fuel pump, distributor. Compression is not fabulous but reasonable (approx 155psi across all 8). I'm handing it over to a guy I know who will not give up until he solves it, but I'm going to give him carte blanche to rip the LPG system out if he thinks that's the way to go. (It'll make the welding easier too!! ) That said, I've sprayed carb cleaner everywhere when it's running, checking for leaks etc, and nothing came from that.
I think I did read somewhere that there was a faulty batch of "new" AFMs?
Someone else suggested ignition amp, but when I called Simon BBC to order another, the guy there said if there's a spark, it's not the amp. There is a spark, but it looks weak to me. Someone else said there is an air gap setting on the reluctor in the distributor which might need adjusting?
I'm still rather embarrassed that I never mentioned the gas before
I bought a new BBC distributor. It ran at idle but misfired on anything other than a light throttle.History - the car had a new "everything" thrown at it before I bought it (knowing that it was running badly). I started a thread on here, probably over a year ago, and lots of people were extremely helpful at the time although it never got resolved. Then I changed jobs, we had a family situation arise, and I ran out of spare time, and it has basically sat around ever since.
The confession: for reasons which I can't even begin to fathom, during the aforementioned long thread, I never stated that the car has LPG fitted
I don't know why. I think I was just focused on it being something else. The system was, at the time, only 10 months old, fitted at a cost of £1900 (for which I have the receipt), which was more than I paid for the car. Anyway, despite speaking to the installer and completely disabling the LPG, it still won't start reliably and it runs like a dog once it is running.I'll have to dig out the list of what it had new, but it includes AFM, stepper motor, fuel pump, distributor. Compression is not fabulous but reasonable (approx 155psi across all 8). I'm handing it over to a guy I know who will not give up until he solves it, but I'm going to give him carte blanche to rip the LPG system out if he thinks that's the way to go. (It'll make the welding easier too!!
) That said, I've sprayed carb cleaner everywhere when it's running, checking for leaks etc, and nothing came from that.I think I did read somewhere that there was a faulty batch of "new" AFMs?
Someone else suggested ignition amp, but when I called Simon BBC to order another, the guy there said if there's a spark, it's not the amp. There is a spark, but it looks weak to me. Someone else said there is an air gap setting on the reluctor in the distributor which might need adjusting?
I'm still rather embarrassed that I never mentioned the gas before
Turned out it was the amp. They sent me a new amp and it's been fine since. So, you can have a spark and a faulty amp...
In theory, a good LPG fitter won't do the work unless the car arrives running properly. So, at first glance, if it's problematic after the LPG then it suggests that it is that that caused the issues.
The one thing I would say is make sure you're chap is an RV8 specialist as all issues are known and you don't want to be paying someone's school fees.
The one thing I would say is make sure you're chap is an RV8 specialist as all issues are known and you don't want to be paying someone's school fees.
RicksAlfas said:
CAPP0 said:
OK, a bit of history and a bit of a confession from me....
History - the car had a new "everything" thrown at it before I bought it (knowing that it was running badly). I started a thread on here, probably over a year ago, and lots of people were extremely helpful at the time although it never got resolved. Then I changed jobs, we had a family situation arise, and I ran out of spare time, and it has basically sat around ever since.
The confession: for reasons which I can't even begin to fathom, during the aforementioned long thread, I never stated that the car has LPG fitted I don't know why. I think I was just focused on it being something else. The system was, at the time, only 10 months old, fitted at a cost of £1900 (for which I have the receipt), which was more than I paid for the car. Anyway, despite speaking to the installer and completely disabling the LPG, it still won't start reliably and it runs like a dog once it is running.
I'll have to dig out the list of what it had new, but it includes AFM, stepper motor, fuel pump, distributor. Compression is not fabulous but reasonable (approx 155psi across all 8). I'm handing it over to a guy I know who will not give up until he solves it, but I'm going to give him carte blanche to rip the LPG system out if he thinks that's the way to go. (It'll make the welding easier too!! ) That said, I've sprayed carb cleaner everywhere when it's running, checking for leaks etc, and nothing came from that.
I think I did read somewhere that there was a faulty batch of "new" AFMs?
Someone else suggested ignition amp, but when I called Simon BBC to order another, the guy there said if there's a spark, it's not the amp. There is a spark, but it looks weak to me. Someone else said there is an air gap setting on the reluctor in the distributor which might need adjusting?
I'm still rather embarrassed that I never mentioned the gas before
I bought a new BBC distributor. It ran at idle but misfired on anything other than a light throttle.History - the car had a new "everything" thrown at it before I bought it (knowing that it was running badly). I started a thread on here, probably over a year ago, and lots of people were extremely helpful at the time although it never got resolved. Then I changed jobs, we had a family situation arise, and I ran out of spare time, and it has basically sat around ever since.
The confession: for reasons which I can't even begin to fathom, during the aforementioned long thread, I never stated that the car has LPG fitted
I don't know why. I think I was just focused on it being something else. The system was, at the time, only 10 months old, fitted at a cost of £1900 (for which I have the receipt), which was more than I paid for the car. Anyway, despite speaking to the installer and completely disabling the LPG, it still won't start reliably and it runs like a dog once it is running.I'll have to dig out the list of what it had new, but it includes AFM, stepper motor, fuel pump, distributor. Compression is not fabulous but reasonable (approx 155psi across all 8). I'm handing it over to a guy I know who will not give up until he solves it, but I'm going to give him carte blanche to rip the LPG system out if he thinks that's the way to go. (It'll make the welding easier too!!
) That said, I've sprayed carb cleaner everywhere when it's running, checking for leaks etc, and nothing came from that.I think I did read somewhere that there was a faulty batch of "new" AFMs?
Someone else suggested ignition amp, but when I called Simon BBC to order another, the guy there said if there's a spark, it's not the amp. There is a spark, but it looks weak to me. Someone else said there is an air gap setting on the reluctor in the distributor which might need adjusting?
I'm still rather embarrassed that I never mentioned the gas before
Turned out it was the amp. They sent me a new amp and it's been fine since. So, you can have a spark and a faulty amp...
Edited by CAPP0 on Friday 6th January 09:02
DonkeyApple said:
Yup.
This one was the best 2 door I've ever seen: https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/74935153@N07/sets/72...
He'd just got it in when I was down there and was very excited as he'd just started removing the much from it to find it was completely rust free. It was sold by the son of the original owner who had bought it New and covered every inch of the underside and crevice with old oil and some goey black stuff like bitumen. The patina on the exterior was amazing and yet it was like New underneath. Apart from a massive clean up of the muck it just needed the interior done.
Check out the rear quarter photos where the paint has just been gently worn away. It's great.
I told him then that Graeme would get a silly price for him but I think he prefers doing it all himself.
like you say - amazing patina where the aluminium is showing throughThis one was the best 2 door I've ever seen: https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/74935153@N07/sets/72...
He'd just got it in when I was down there and was very excited as he'd just started removing the much from it to find it was completely rust free. It was sold by the son of the original owner who had bought it New and covered every inch of the underside and crevice with old oil and some goey black stuff like bitumen. The patina on the exterior was amazing and yet it was like New underneath. Apart from a massive clean up of the muck it just needed the interior done.
Check out the rear quarter photos where the paint has just been gently worn away. It's great.
I told him then that Graeme would get a silly price for him but I think he prefers doing it all himself.
Just purchased this:
1994 (1995 model year) LSE Soft Dash, currently on SORN, but being put back on the road - one more running!
Will be a rolling update / restoration of the car - little rot, but lots of cosmetic stuff to do...
this was my first RR - 1982 4 door In Vogue
this was my second RR - 1993 LSE
I also owned a P38 after that (but wouldn't wish to sully the thread with images!)
1994 (1995 model year) LSE Soft Dash, currently on SORN, but being put back on the road - one more running!
Will be a rolling update / restoration of the car - little rot, but lots of cosmetic stuff to do...
this was my first RR - 1982 4 door In Vogue
this was my second RR - 1993 LSE
I also owned a P38 after that (but wouldn't wish to sully the thread with images!)
akirk said:
Just purchased this:
1994 (1995 model year) LSE Soft Dash, currently on SORN, but being put back on the road - one more running!
Will be a rolling update / restoration of the car - little rot, but lots of cosmetic stuff to do...
this was my first RR - 1982 4 door In Vogue
this was my second RR - 1993 LSE
I also owned a P38 after that (but wouldn't wish to sully the thread with images!)
Looking forward to the updates. I love the gold In Vogue. How did it get bashed? 1994 (1995 model year) LSE Soft Dash, currently on SORN, but being put back on the road - one more running!
Will be a rolling update / restoration of the car - little rot, but lots of cosmetic stuff to do...
this was my first RR - 1982 4 door In Vogue
this was my second RR - 1993 LSE
I also owned a P38 after that (but wouldn't wish to sully the thread with images!)
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