The Range Rover Classic thread

[ClaphamGT3]

Further evidence of pricing being all over the place, this may well be solid as a rock and a great basis for an easier restoration but £20k feels ambitious

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1976-Range-Rover-Classic...

[squirdan]

chaps

given 2 door In Vogue in good order £30K plus

and 2 door In Vogue project / resto was sold for £15k ish

what do you think the correct price for the 4 door later In Vogue Derwent Blue is??

cheers

[DonkeyApple]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Further evidence of pricing being all over the place, this may well be solid as a rock and a great basis for an easier restoration but £20k feels ambitious

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1976-Range-Rover-Classic...

I thought the price was bang on when I first looked at the ad but then you realise that it's one of those resto projects that has started back to front with a new paint job on the outside and run out of ambition before the tidying up of the underside, sorting of mechanicals and a complete solution for the interior. Scrolling through the photos you do get the impression that it's just a project car that's been painted. Again, to pay someone to bring it up to £20k spec might cost as much as £10k depending on the state of the fabrics and core mechanicals?

[DonkeyApple]

squirdan said:

chaps

given 2 door In Vogue in good order £30K plus

and 2 door In Vogue project / resto was sold for £15k ish

what do you think the correct price for the 4 door later In Vogue Derwent Blue is??

cheers

Very tough call. Market is awake to the earlier In Vogues but there haven't been enough of them brought back to life to get a good number of dealers frothing about the 'badge'.

My wild guess is that the badge would certainly make an early 4 door quicker to sell at worst but it should add £1-£5k above the comparable standard model price dependent on the state it is in. But you could probably stretch that considerably if you're happy for it to take time to sell.

I sold a mint, unwrapped hamper and coolbox plus the two sets of straps for over a £1k last year and a second mint hamper for over £600. So collectors are fully aware of the model but the later ones don't have the '2 door' premium that currently makes the big difference.

As I feel that early 80s 4 doors are the model type that will grow over the next couple of years then my personal view is that annIn Vogue one is well worth having for best investment gain/hedge.

[ClaphamGT3]

DonkeyApple said:

squirdan said:

chaps

given 2 door In Vogue in good order £30K plus

and 2 door In Vogue project / resto was sold for £15k ish

what do you think the correct price for the 4 door later In Vogue Derwent Blue is??

cheers

Very tough call. Market is awake to the earlier In Vogues but there haven't been enough of them brought back to life to get a good number of dealers frothing about the 'badge'.

My wild guess is that the badge would certainly make an early 4 door quicker to sell at worst but it should add £1-£5k above the comparable standard model price dependent on the state it is in. But you could probably stretch that considerably if you're happy for it to take time to sell.

I sold a mint, unwrapped hamper and coolbox plus the two sets of straps for over a £1k last year and a second mint hamper for over £600. So collectors are fully aware of the model but the later ones don't have the '2 door' premium that currently makes the big difference.

As I feel that early 80s 4 doors are the model type that will grow over the next couple of years then my personal view is that annIn Vogue one is well worth having for best investment gain/hedge.

There is a great deal of sense in this. I agree entirely that too few are hitting the market to make plotting trends meaningful, made all the harder by the number of people pricing ambitiously on the basis that you only need one fool

I hope you'll forgive me for being punchably pedantic when I point out that a derwent blue four door would be a Vogue not an In-Vogue and would date from the '84 model year

[DonkeyApple]

Maybe that raises another minor issue with the In Vogues? All the 2 doors were the same colour and there was a fixed number of them. Two great attributes for 'investment'. Also, to get the trim bits separately you needed to go to W&P and pay their prices (bar the Brexton branded boot kit). By the time of the 4 door they had two colours(?) and then more(?) and no fixed numbers. Plus I think things like the door cappings just morphed into the Vogue cappings(?).

Going back to that wrecked In Vogue that sold for £15k, that was an absolutely insane price and I can't help thinking it was bought by someone who wasn't quite paying enough attention and is now sitting there wondering just what they've done. At the time that was up for sale I still had a full set of essential parts to restore that car but the state of the metalwork meant it was only remotely cost effective if you just transplanted the identity into another car and mocked that up to flog as a fake.

[squirdan]

ClaphamGT3 said:

There is a great deal of sense in this. I agree entirely that too few are hitting the market to make plotting trends meaningful, made all the harder by the number of people pricing ambitiously on the basis that you only need one fool

I hope you'll forgive me for being punchably pedantic when I point out that a derwent blue four door would be a Vogue not an In-Vogue and would date from the '84 model year

I'm referring to the 84 In Vogue 4 door you yourself first pointed out on ebay when it was advertised at £20k

the 3rd and final "In Vogue limited edition, produced from Aug 83, and only in Derwent Blue...or I am I wrong?

[squirdan]

I hadnt spotted this tidy looking 87 4 door before.

I prefer the earlier cars but this presents well

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1987-RANGE-ROVER-EFI-CLA...

[DonkeyApple]

Have you noticed that the good quality late 80s Rangies which have been £11-£13k for some time have climbed towards the £15k+ mark? Whether they are selling I've no idea but the usual dealers all seem to have elevated their prices in the last few months.

[squirdan]

I have. The Octane front cover effect?

[DonkeyApple]

squirdan said:

I have. The Octane front cover effect?

Ah, maybe. Missed that. Is it worth a read?

[squirdan]

DonkeyApple said:

Ah, maybe. Missed that. Is it worth a read?

dont think it will tell you anything you dont already know. But asserts they have become "the most sought after classic" or some such words.

[NomduJour]

The history part of the article was pretty poor.

Overfinch secondary door seals - do they fit into a new, additional channel attached to the window frame, or are they just stuck on?

[soxboy]

squirdan said:

DonkeyApple said:

Ah, maybe. Missed that. Is it worth a read?

dont think it will tell you anything you dont already know. But asserts they have become "the most sought after classic" or some such words.

It gives some nice tales from the launch in Cornwall and some nice photography, but little else on the car that you wouldn't know already.

[DonkeyApple]

Thanks.

[DonkeyApple]

NomduJour said:

The history part of the article was pretty poor.

Overfinch secondary door seals - do they fit into a new, additional channel attached to the window frame, or are they just stuck on?

There wouldn't have been anything clever about them.

[CAPP0]

Just booked a trailer rental for 14th Jan to take mine somewhere to sort out the poor running issue. After that I can (try and) get it MOTd then decide what to do with it next!

[RicksAlfas]

CAPP0 said:

Just booked a trailer rental for 14th Jan to take mine somewhere to sort out the poor running issue. After that I can (try and) get it MOTd then decide what to do with it next!

Couldn't we sort it via this thread?
i.e. we spend your money by guessing?


I'll start - stepper motor.
(Genuine AC Delco ones are on Amazon.com for about £60).

[K50 DEL]

Talk about hindsight being a wonderful thing... sold my 1993 classic Vogue SE in 2005 and struggled to get £2.5k for it.
If only I'd known, even the P38 that I replaced it with would have increased in value if I'd kept it it seems.

[anonymous-user]

Been smoking around in this.



Late 2 door 4 speed. A bit tatty around the edges but low mileage and drives superbly.
Perfect winter car for narrow country lanes with crappy surfaces.

The later gearbox and diffs make it a much nicer drive than the earlier cars.