The Range Rover Classic thread

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squirdan

1,107 posts

161 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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Some minor green laning for a beer with a view and wildflowers.

Love this car

DonkeyApple

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62,352 posts

183 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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Dragged mine out of the barn it's been abandoned in while the one month extension works enter their fourth month and had a lovely potter back to the house. They're totally addictive.

Vixpy1

42,686 posts

278 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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Started the long awaited restoration on my 93 Classic today, engine is out (it turned into a water feature), Front body mounts need replacement panels welding in, some work to top of inner wings but she is not too bad otherwise, lots of fuel lines etc need replacing.

I turned my attention to the back, dropped the tail gate, removed the support arms, and the whole tailgate, and the hinges, and most of the rear crossmember that has the body mounts on it, fell off.

So some welding needed there too.

NomduJour

20,125 posts

273 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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Which reminds me - anyone have a decent post-‘89 lower tailgate they don’t need?

KingGary

1,082 posts

14 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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Here’s my old girl. Not a classic classic, but a P38 classic. Mechanically spot on as I’ve done some bodywork to make it as I want it. Done the usual stuff like blend motors myself, along with the heater matrix. Also had the suspension bags done and new dampers and bushes all round. Pretty reliable if you stay on top of maintenance, misunderstood beasts.


NomduJour

20,125 posts

273 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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I’ve got some blend motors to do when I can face it.

KingGary

1,082 posts

14 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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NomduJour said:
I’ve got some blend motors to do when I can face it.
Get stuck in!


DonkeyApple

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62,352 posts

183 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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NomduJour said:
Which reminds me - anyone have a decent post-‘89 lower tailgate they don’t need?
I think you can buy the skins now which makes much more sense.

NomduJour

20,125 posts

273 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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You can, but it’s a fair bit of work vs paint and applying the stickers.

NomduJour

20,125 posts

273 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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KingGary said:
Get stuck in!
That’s why I haven’t.

DonkeyApple

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62,352 posts

183 months

Friday 2nd August 2024
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NomduJour said:
You can, but it’s a fair bit of work vs paint and applying the stickers.
It is but the rust in these tailgates is relentless. It's not just where the seams were bodged together but the st metal that has actual rust inside it from the foundry. It's relentless and unstoppable like the Terminator or nagging partners. Delete and replace being the only true option despite the initial cost. biggrin

I think by the time the rot has been cut out and a patch and repair done sufficiently to not show the reskin is quicker and better.

I've a spot that's appeared at the bottom of mine and I'm going to dig it out, treat, fill and touch up over winter just to because it'll cost nothing and buy a couple more years but a reskin is inevitable if planning to keep.

NomduJour

20,125 posts

273 months

Friday 2nd August 2024
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Famous Four do new tailgates, but they’re £1200.

KingGary

1,082 posts

14 months

Friday 2nd August 2024
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NomduJour said:
KingGary said:
Get stuck in!
That’s why I haven’t.
I used this brilliant how to guide. If you’re methodical and prepared to put things into bags and label them, it’s quite easy. Took me 2 days to get it out and a day to put it back. I think I could do both in a weekend now. Worst bit was the bloody heater matrix - I broke it whilst changing the O rings by over tightening the screw. Had to unbolt the frame from the bulkhead which is a pig of a job as you need to get behind the wiper motor assembly. Anyway if it’s just o rings and motors you’re doing, it’s a weekend.

https://paulp38a.com/range-rover-p38/dash-removal/

squirdan

1,107 posts

161 months

Sunday 8th September 2024
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Thinking about some upgrades …

Is Ashcroft still the go-to for refurbed transmissions? My gearbox is slipping sometimes and has already had new fluid and filter so may be on its way out

Engine wise I know Twenty Ten seem to only use John Eales but any thoughts on Turner or RPI most welcome.

I will probably rebuild or exchange my standard 3.9 for a 4.2

Vixpy1

42,686 posts

278 months

Sunday 8th September 2024
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squirdan said:
Thinking about some upgrades …

Is Ashcroft still the go-to for refurbed transmissions? My gearbox is slipping sometimes and has already had new fluid and filter so may be on its way out

Engine wise I know Twenty Ten seem to only use John Eales but any thoughts on Turner or RPI most welcome.

I will probably rebuild or exchange my standard 3.9 for a 4.2
RPI have ceased trading, I used V8 Developments for my Disco 4.6

DonkeyApple

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62,352 posts

183 months

Sunday 8th September 2024
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squirdan said:
Thinking about some upgrades …

Is Ashcroft still the go-to for refurbed transmissions? My gearbox is slipping sometimes and has already had new fluid and filter so may be on its way out

Engine wise I know Twenty Ten seem to only use John Eales but any thoughts on Turner or RPI most welcome.

I will probably rebuild or exchange my standard 3.9 for a 4.2
I don't really rate RPI and certainly not for engines to make tanks with slushpumps deliver their best. John Eales just seem to be dependable every time and they certainly know all about setting an RV8 up for our sort of wagons.

I've not heard anything to suggest Ashcroft still aren't the only people worth going to for the chunky bits.

If I were starting another project I think I'd opt for the electronic version of the box and adding Compushift and investing the hours in creating a nice change map.

NomduJour

20,125 posts

273 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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If you’re going for a new engine, surely 4.6 is the cost-effective choice.

jon-yprpe

419 posts

102 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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I have an Ashcroft R380 box in my 4.6 classic.

Had a duff 2nd gear synchro but they rebuilt it under warranty and added a longer 5th gear.

As DA says, John Eales or V8 developments.

squirdan

1,107 posts

161 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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I don’t necessarily want more power or torque - but yes I suppose why not. Was thinking LSE spec without the extra length

DonkeyApple

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62,352 posts

183 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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If it's an all new engine then, to be honest, I'd also go 4.6.

It's not about power for power's sake but about having power getting through the ZF box at 50-70 to just get passed Mrs Miggins and his hypermiling.

Rob at V8Devs seemed to know his stuff but a John Eales 4.6 with the right cam for where the slushpump needs the power is going to be hard to better.

I still have the Rotrex supercharger to fit to the 4.0 in my '72. I went that route as it meant the car just drive normally under 2k rpm but would deliver a lump of boost for overtaking when needed. Of starting again I'd go the simpler route of a JE 4.6 and even consider a big holly carb purely for the noise. biggrin