Car Mag's

[Pigeon]

I believe WHS have a policy that browsers become buyers, so they don't mind you doing that.

[crankedup]

I said earlier I had tried to get a copy of Classiccars at Smith's. Whilst looking for it the Manager helpfully asked if he could help me, yes indeed Classiccars please.Sorry we dont stock that

I'm going to get myself an yearly subs out for the mags I want. Its cheaper more convenient and I get a free gift

[Stuart]

crankedup said:

I said earlier I had tried to get a copy of Classiccars at Smith's. Whilst looking for it the Manager helpfully asked if he could help me, yes indeed Classiccars please.Sorry we dont stock that I'm going to get myself an yearly subs out for the mags I want. Its cheaper more convenient and I get a free gift

It is indeed, and we have some rather lovely gifts at the moment. I know because I choose them, which means that "samples" occasionally find their way into the Forrest model car collection, and we're not often short of Autoglym around our house...

[crankedup]

At one stage of my working life I was involved in the undertaking.

Somehow I managed to resist a free perk of the job coffin

[EmmaP]

GregE240 said:

LOL, I texted a friend on Saturday who told me they were in Smiths looking at car magazines. I've often wondered who did that. I told them it wasn't a library, and they could buy them if they wished...

Cheeky bugger! I told you I bought 'Evo' and 'Supercars'. That's almost £14 I'll have you know!

I buy 'Classic American' too - well I would do wouldn't I?

WHSmith's do acknowledge the fact that people generally try before they buy, but many people do use it as a library. My friend used to work there and they had regular 'lookers' who were duly noted and encouraged to look a little less I think

>> Edited by EmmaP on Wednesday 22 December 01:14

[GregE240]

EmmaP said:

GregE240 said: LOL, I texted a friend on Saturday who told me they were in Smiths looking at car magazines. I've often wondered who did that. I told them it wasn't a library, and they could buy them if they wished... Cheeky bugger! I told you I bought 'Evo' and 'Supercars'. That's almost £14 I'll have you know! I buy 'Classic American' too - well I would do wouldn't I? WHSmith's do acknowledge the fact that people generally try before they buy, but many people do use it as a library. My friend used to work there and they had regular 'lookers' who were duly noted and encouraged to look a little less I think >> Edited by EmmaP on Wednesday 22 December 01:14

Emm, look at my original post - "a friend" "they were" "who" talk about names changed to protect the innocent! But thanks for standing up and being counted!

[Andrew Noakes]

v8thunder said:

Classics - Oh dear. Seem to think anything built pre-1980 is worthy of their complete attention and anything built after is not. Cue articles about Austin Allegros and interminable buyer's guides for cars not many people are bothered about. Their ads are free though.

It used to be different when I was editing it (from the start in 1997 until 2002). We did everything from Austin Sevens to Lancia Thema 8.32s, and even the odd modern car of note - XK8, Audi TT.

v8thunder said:

Retro Classics - A sort of cross-breed between Evo, Max Power and Practical Classics, all about making classic cars more fun to drive. Purists will be outraged, but it gets more - and younger - people 'into' classic cars and away from Lax Power et al. Must be a good thing.

Retro Classics was a magazine I ran in 1996, with exactly that remit. Hardly anyone bought it, so it died. You're thinking of Retro Cars, which covers the same ground but is completely unrelated.

[stigproducts]

Classics is a Ok read, but they need a YTS boy in there to ensure that when the contents says article x is on page y it is, and that the picture labeled Volvo IS a volvo not a bloody datsun or whatever.
In the publishing game does this sort of thing have a particular name? Whatever it is called Classics are crap at it and it drags their already borderline publication down

[stigproducts]

Sparkythecat said:

Was in WHS a while ago browsing magazines and contemplating the purchase of Classic & Sportscar when I noticed how much the cover prices of magazines appear to be creeping up. Typically £3.50 to £4.95 This, when very often the amount of advertising in them far outweighs any new journalistic content.

I have to agree with this and Classic and Sportscar is the worst offender IMO. Open it at a random page and it is almost certainly a dealer advert of a load of e types or something. I nearly counted pages of adverts versus articles one day but got bored, I would guess at LEAST 50% is adverts.
It is an Ok mag, I am a subscriber and have got all of them since the first one(and yes the gifts are the best around!), but I am on the verge of getting narked by all those every increasing adverts and canceling the direct debit.
BTW- C&S man(stuart) if you read this- do you sell binders?

>> Edited by stigproducts on Wednesday 22 December 17:19

[Stuart]

stigproducts said:

Sparkythecat said: Was in WHS a while ago browsing magazines and contemplating the purchase of Classic & Sportscar when I noticed how much the cover prices of magazines appear to be creeping up. Typically £3.50 to £4.95 This, when very often the amount of advertising in them far outweighs any new journalistic content. I have to agree with this and Classic and Sportscar is the worst offender IMO. Open it at a random page and it is almost certainly a dealer advert of a load of e types or something. I nearly counted pages of adverts versus articles one day but got bored, I would guess at LEAST 50% is adverts. It is an Ok mag, I am a subscriber and have got all of them since the first one(and yes the gifts are the best around!), but I am on the verge of getting narked by all those every increasing adverts and canceling the direct debit. BTW- C&S man(stuart) if you read this- do you sell binders? >> Edited by stigproducts on Wednesday 22 December 17:19

Yes we do. If you call the office (in the new year now) on 020 8267 5000 and ask to be put through to Classic & Sports Car's editorial secretary she'll be able to help you out.

[EmmaP]

stigproducts said:

Classics is a Ok read, but they need a YTS boy in there to ensure that when the contents says article x is on page y it is, and that the picture labeled Volvo IS a volvo not a bloody datsun or whatever. In the publishing game does this sort of thing have a particular name?

A proof reader is responsible for checking the final copy before the magazine goes to press. It is a skilled job and not one that a YTS trainee (these no longer exist ) would be given.

[Stuart]

EmmaP said:

stigproducts said: Classics is a Ok read, but they need a YTS boy in there to ensure that when the contents says article x is on page y it is, and that the picture labeled Volvo IS a volvo not a bloody datsun or whatever. In the publishing game does this sort of thing have a particular name? A proof reader is responsible for checking the final copy before the magazine goes to press. It is a skilled job and not one that a YTS trainee (these no longer exist ) would be given.

Quite right. In fact I'd venture so far as to say that a good sub-editor (to use the correct term) is crucial in preventing any good magazine from falling to pieces. Doesn't prevent me from dismissing them as the "spell checking desk" whenever the opportunity presents itself.

[sparkey]

Just got the January MotorSport for a bit of Christmas lounging about eating/drinking amusement and I think it's actually getting better. I don't like the new 'modern' cover, but the content's really good. I like the advertising, because usually the cars being advertised in Motorsport are particularly nice and unusual cars and I'm quite happy to convince myself over a bottle of Bushmills that I'll probably race an Aston at Le Mans next year ( next year being 1959 )

S..

[EmmaP]

stuart_forrest said:

EmmaP said: A proof reader is responsible for checking the final copy before the magazine goes to press. It is a skilled job and not one that a YTS trainee (these no longer exist ) would be given. Quite right. In fact I'd venture so far as to say that a good sub-editor (to use the correct term) is crucial in preventing any good magazine from falling to pieces.

Some magazines and publishing houses still use the old term