The Range Rover Classic thread

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zenrangie said:

hey..hi Tim!!

hope u and yours well!!?

nope this is a different one..still have sally..(blown lexus lump)...though she awaiting the twin plate clutch at the moment..( a certain well known motosport clutch company just took 2 1/2 months to build me the new flywheel and clutch, but decided to NOT use the dimensions from the flywheel i sent them!!big expensive dooh on their behalf..and another 2 odd weeks for me to wait!!..why ask for my flywheel and then decide to ignore it???...(imagine round hole and try to fit in an oversize square peg..)....but still they have been excellent in past ..so not naming them..assuming this to be a one off feck up...i hope)

no this is Ruby..1971 suffix a..no rot..4.6 LR service exchange , big valves, high lift cam,decent headers, m112 blower, 100hp nitros hit..hp24eh box mated to lt230..gearbox and engine megasquirt/shift controlled..flappy padels etc..m3 seats..wall to wall carpet..etc..NOT concourse, but a driver..

thing is cant drive both...so one sits...and i prefer sally..cos she manual..and she just had new paint job...so think Ruby needs to go to new home where she lives indoors during winter...

how many you have now?..did you ever get your 2 door done to as you like??

simon

Hi Simon. All good. Girls well. Wife happy. Ex business partner dealt with.

Just sold the In Vogue so down to the 89 and the long running 2 door project but that is firmly under way now so hoping to have that on the road early Spring.

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MRPULLHARD said:

Notice Kingsley cars have a load of lhd slightly shabby Lhd - mostly 2 door - classics for sale as restoration projects .
Seems strange when they are known for pricey refurbishments/ used vehicles , have they found a way to make a quick buck or did they buy a load in expecting to sell many of their high value ' new' classic models like the white one in earlier post and find it hard going ?

They seem to be flogging everything at the moment. It took years for that white car to sell (if it has now gone) and I suspect they've not sold many others. The owner isn't exactly revered in RR circles and the customers looking to spend that sort of money are likely to end up in conversation with some of the others.

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squirdan said:

Tim / Donkey Apple

I hear the eagle has landed.

my work email address no longer works so send me a message via here please

Morning. Yes, the squirrel dines in Prague this winter. Will PM

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squirdan said:

nice that, I must admit, I am starting to prefer the early 4 doors. somehow cooler. Mine from the same year not quite as nice inside yet! ????

Hopefully will be in a few months though. R380 long stick purchased to replace that 3 speed auto...

Edited by squirdan on Sunday 20th November 19:18

I still think the pre 85 4 doors are the one to have if you plan to use a Rangie on the road. Firstly the parts are a bit easier to source, secondly they are more practical and thirdly they are lagging most other types in value.

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Nipples! In Vogues all have two nipples on the RH parcel shelf section that the hamper and cool box straps hook over.

And steel loops in the boot floor. A pair for the hamper and another for the coolbox in the 4 doors.

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squirdan said:

thanks chaps, good knowledge

Tim - i saw the engine and it looks great, managed to get a rebuilt R380 with the correct bellhousing which wasnt easy...so I am good to go

think I will run it on CSK type alloys with the inner bits gunmetal...reinstate the coachline once its all been repainted...cant wait (although...wait is exactly what I'll no doubt de doing for another 6 months)

Hi Dan. Glad you like it. I remember then exploring using a R380 that getting the right bellhousing was quite difficult. I can't remember what the reason was but it was something to do with the lever inside the housing?

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squirdan said:

wildcat45 said:

Yes I was expecting screen after screen of RRC porn.

there is a well known Oxfordshire based purveyor of such

I have tended to find in classic car land an inverse correlation between website and quality of work...somehow the good guys are always over-run with work and dont need to bother with proper web presence

In those particular examples that principle probably couldn't be more accurate.

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CSKs are an odd one. On paper you would expect them to be the holy grail. 2 door, limited numbers, documented, all mod cons, distinctive yet after being in the vanguard of the early rise in prices, like soft dashes which also led the charge they've buckled in the last few years. It's like they had their own bubble bursting a few years ago.

There was a chap who I think was ex AML and based somewhere in Bucks who had snapped up a whole load of wrecks that I assume he planned to restore but that all seems to have disappeared. And there has been a restored one that has spent the last two years having its price dropped and failed at a couple of auctions. I seem to recall the last asking price was £60k having started at £100k. I don't know if it is one of the above cars?

They definitely don't seem to be wanted by collectors.

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That's the one. Is it either of the ones above?

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squirdan said:

DonkeyApple said:

That's the one. Is which does it either of the ones above?

Not sure! But I think it's now on eBay for £40k

Which does finally look good value as I don't believe you could make the maths work doing one up yourself

Re-reading my sentence above I have absolutely no idea how those words got into that order!! It's garbage. My iPhone updated a few weeks ago and it seems to automatically auto complete words before you have finished typing and as you can no longer see what is being typed on the screen it can be quite a mess.

Anyway. £20-£30k seems to have settled as the range for good, solid restored cars but that still won't cover the costs of doing a proper job. Especially a CSK which will have a lot of hidden rot that means it has to be a full body off and total resto of the metalwork to be considered a proper job.

Interestingly, the later white 2 door import that I have was originally sourced as a body shell swap for a CSK that was bought for very strong money as a restored car and transpired to be pure iron oxide. But, the shells are different although from the same era. I can't recall what the difference was but any CSK resto which has used a period body swap can be spotted.

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wildcat45 said:

Is that an original colour? I've not seen one like that before.

Looks odd doesn't it but could be the low sun?

I think the three light colours from that period were Arctic White, Sahara Dust and a new one Shetland Beige.

Maybe it's Sahara Dust and the low sun is giving it that creme englais colour?

There was a yellow like that in the export market because you can see them in Aus and South Africa but the sun has faded them to that sort of shade.

In short, I don't know.

Resto looks nice in the photos.

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NomduJour said:

I'd go for Shetland Beige. Are those mirrors really going for £500? They're not so rare in chrome.

Bonnet Wingards are 7-900 now. You can still find the door mirrors for 300ish.

A lot of restos cheat and use the smaller TR7 (and others) ones which are ten a penny. I think the chrome ones you refer to are the same size as the smaller ones?

I think I have about £10k of wing and door mirrors in original boxing based on EBay prices. I ought to start offloading really.

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Look superb.

Re the tailgate, they are pretty easy to replace yourself but as you're Bucks then the chap who I'd use is Graham Goodyer in Coleshill. He must have spent 40 odd years keeping the local shoot cars running.

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bp81 said:

Thanks donkeyapple I used him to do a couple of bits replace radiator and sort out the central locking really nice chap but I asked him about the tailgate and he said they were very difficult to get hold of and suggested calling breakers etc so hit a roadblock with him.

Ah, the issue is you need to source one rather than git one. Got you.

Have they stopped making to aluminium tepo ones then?

I think it was Famous Four who had them?

I know of a VELAR one. The owner will accept fees over £2k

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Looks like you can still get the repos: https://www.famousfour.co.uk/new_parts/ff_part?par...

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There's a used aluminium one on eBay at the moment.

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MrMoonyMan said:

Good evening all,

There is a slim possibility my RR will be off to Europe over Christmas.

As such I'm just running through a few small items just in case.

I am stuck on the windscreen wipers - both front and rear.

The wiper blades appear to be an old style with pin, quite unlike modern replacements and not stocked by halfords or my local Land Rover specialist.

Does anyone here have any pointers?

I bought the Halfords ones and spent five minutes in the car park faffing about transplanting the pins and lo they fit.

The ones I bought had the same holes stamped so the pins could be transplanted.

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MrMoonyMan said:

DonkeyApple said:

I bought the Halfords ones and spent five minutes in the car park faffing about transplanting the pins and lo they fit.

The ones I bought had the same holes stamped so the pins could be transplanted.

Ah, I see. Okay, will head back and have another go then.

Many thanks for the quick reply!

I used the Halfords book to find the ones for 1989 and when I tried to fit them I realised they were too modern for my car but then realised I could remove the pin bits and fit them into the holes that still existed on the new ones.

Check in the car park that this is the case as it's easier to refund if not.

Annoyingly I only threw out the Halfords box for the wipers a few weeks ago or I'd take a photo for you.

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NomduJour said:

squirdan said:

an "interesting" bit of handy work on a car that shall remain anonymous...push fit plastic brake pipe junction anyone!

A couple of years ago I won an LSE on eBay that turned out to be a complete wreck when I went to get it - on the test drive a front brake pipe burst and the seller offered to fix it by putting a jubilee clip around it.

As it's a twin line system I wonder if the best actio is to clamp it off when that happens?

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NomduJour said:

You'd still have a long pedal and less powerful brakes whatever you did.

I guess bullbars would help.