Lotus 49 at Beauleigh.

Lotus 49 at Beauleigh.

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mickrick

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Saturday 12th December 2009
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Just thought I'd post a picture of it, as I was there last week.
Isn't she a Beauty? The Holy Grail IMO. bow

And I just love the DFV ! I'd have one in my house as a piece of art, but the cheapest I've seen one for display only (No internals) was 5k. weeping

lewis1

311 posts

195 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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hmmm, i wonder what history that particular chassis has, not a lot I bet

mickrick

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Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Loads! It's chassis 03. Graham Hills car. bow

lewis1

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Wednesday 16th December 2009
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i wonder how much of it really is chassis 3, although its nice to think its an original.
I have had the pleasure of running one of these cars and they are amazing. Although i struggled to fit in the car comfortably, its not a big cockpit!!

mickrick

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Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Ooooh you Lucky Lucky man!cloud9 What I would give for a chance like that!
I read recently that it was put against the pit wall at Siverstone. Two corners dinged. So it's had some work recently.
But it's not uncommon for race cars to have bits swapped/changed over thier careers is it. An exampli is the doubtfull provenence of the latest Silver Arrow Merc. that came up for auction.
Am I right in thinking they only built 9 Lotus 49's?

lewis1

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Wednesday 16th December 2009
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back then the parts didn't last as long as now either so chances are its just parts of the main cockpit that are original, Yeh it was dropped into the pit wall recently.
But when you think of it, what's the chances of any full restoration really being original. It just doesn't happen and these are race cars that have numerous shunts etc. As long as the parts were at least made by lotus its all good. Lovely cars to work on. Not sure how many chassis they ever built. But the chassis i worked on was 09. I do have pictures but sadly cant post them onto the web. Email me for more info wink

chevronb37

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193 months

Thursday 31st December 2009
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As I understand it, this is the only original "A-spec" (my words) 49 as they ran in 1967 left in the world. Unfortunately some chump from Beaulieu managed to shunt it at Silverstone a year or two ago. It is obviously re-built and looking fine, but does bring up the question of whether cars with such provenance should be allowed into the hands of people who aren't necessarily so qualified to drive them...This car has been demonstrated at Goodwood FoS by Damon. HTH.

Sam_68

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252 months

Thursday 31st December 2009
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lewis1 said:
i wonder how much of it really is chassis 3, although its nice to think its an original.
Isn't this the car that's been smashed up twice by it's keeper at Beaulieu?

If so, I can't imagine there's much of the original chassis left in there by now.

Lovely car, even so...

mickrick

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Sunday 3rd January 2010
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It was the Museum Manager, Doug Hill, who pranged it. shoot
Although the car's always refered to as the ex Graham Hill car, it was driven mostly by J. Love who managed 13 1st's. Hill only raced it 8 times.
Retired with engine trouble 1st time out, Crashed it in practice 2nd time out, had a 4th place and 3 2nd's, and two retirements with a broken crank, and a broken CV joint.
After Love, it was raced 5 times by Parnell.

There where only 11 built. There was an R12 built, but it was only a show car, and never raced. It was reputed to be built from the crashed R6.

There's also a replica somewhere that was built for a Belgian Guy. Built from the discarded R2 chassis, when it was converted from 49 to 49B spec. readnerd


Edited by mickrick on Sunday 3rd January 09:07

mickrick

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Sunday 3rd January 2010
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lewis1

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Monday 4th January 2010
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I will see what I can dig out about that one!

I take it your a big lotus fan then!

mickrick

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Tuesday 5th January 2010
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Not really, but I'm reading Michael Oliver's book right now. read
That's where I got the info. wink
The few things I'm into are, the 49, DFV's, BD's, and Caterhams. cloud9
Oh, and John Hartley's H1. cool

lewis1

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Tuesday 5th January 2010
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by BD's you mean the cosworth engines?

Edited by lewis1 on Wednesday 6th January 18:56

mickrick

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Tuesday 5th January 2010
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Yes Cosworth BD's. Nothing like the sound of one at full chat! wink

mickrick

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Wednesday 6th January 2010
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mickrick said:
Yes Cosworth BD's. Nothing like the sound of one at full chat! wink
Except a Millington Diamond!

Can you post a link?

lewis1

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Wednesday 6th January 2010
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YHM