Lotus Eagle Concept??

[Dodgey_Rog]

Rumour has it, this is the next Lotus, codenamed Eagle;



i think i quite like it.

[roosevelt]

EVO has a different take,,,,

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/209975/new_lotus...

I note this concept(?) is Proton badged. Where/when was this car shown??

[Dodgey_Rog]

it was after tapping into google, "Lotus Concept" and then seeing "Lotus Eagle Concept", it was badged a Proton due to secrecy i gather.

not seen it on PH before so i thought it might be of interest, interesting looking vehicle, could give some design cues to what the Esprit might look like though.

if you recall, the Europa was badged a Proton originally, then changed to a Lotus due to the fact Lotus didn't want a Proton in their brand territory.

[Andy T]

I typed in Lotus Eagle and got this

Lets hope thats not the new Lotus either!

[Monkey boy 1]

Andy T said:

I typed in Lotus Eagle and got this

Lets hope thats not the new Lotus either!

Looks like a 4 wheeled Bond Bug

[Tuna]

I've seen that photo a while ago, and believe that it's a Proton concept, and might have been a styling exercise for 'their' Europa. However, Proton are in the middle of takeover talks, and projects like this have apparently been shelved due to the uncertainty within the company.

It doesn't look like it's the Eagle - doesn't look long enough to be 2+2 and doesn't fit the descriptions that insiders have come up with (somewhere between the Ferrari 308GT4 and the M250).

Edited to add.... I may be wrong of course.

Edited by Tuna on Tuesday 11th September 20:18

[paul_c]

Dodgey_Rog said:

if you recall, the Europa was badged a Proton originally, then changed to a Lotus due to the fact Lotus didn't want a Proton in their brand territory.

That car was intended as a Proton all along, then Proton got cold feet after most of the development work had already been done, Lotus decided they might as well carry on with it and badge it as a Lotus to fill in the void in the production line.

[dbroughton]

something very AM Vantage about the back of the car.


Looks cool but need a few more angles.

[Foolish Dave]

paul_c said:

Dodgey_Rog said:

if you recall, the Europa was badged a Proton originally, then changed to a Lotus due to the fact Lotus didn't want a Proton in their brand territory.

That car was intended as a Proton all along, then Proton got cold feet after most of the development work had already been done, Lotus decided they might as well carry on with it and badge it as a Lotus to fill in the void in the production line.

I thought that was said about the Europa - looks quite a bit like a Europa too...

I was hoping for more hard and agressive styling when I heard about this a while ago. I hope it comes to something a bit better than that!

ETA - I just hope they get the V6 sounding good and go well - maybe it could be a Noble M12 killer.

Edited by Foolish Dave on Friday 14th September 08:46

[Tuna]

Foolish Dave said:

paul_c said:

Dodgey_Rog said:

if you recall, the Europa was badged a Proton originally, then changed to a Lotus due to the fact Lotus didn't want a Proton in their brand territory.

That car was intended as a Proton all along, then Proton got cold feet after most of the development work had already been done, Lotus decided they might as well carry on with it and badge it as a Lotus to fill in the void in the production line.

I thought that was said about the Europa - looks quite a bit like a Europa too...

I was hoping for more hard and agressive styling when I heard about this a while ago. I hope it comes to something a bit better than that!

ETA - I just hope they get the V6 sounding good and go well - maybe it could be a Noble M12 killer.

Edited by Foolish Dave on Friday 14th September 08:46

I'll say it again. That's not the Eagle. It's the Europa.

[Monkey boy 1]

Tuna said:

Foolish Dave said:

paul_c said:

Dodgey_Rog said:

if you recall, the Europa was badged a Proton originally, then changed to a Lotus due to the fact Lotus didn't want a Proton in their brand territory.

That car was intended as a Proton all along, then Proton got cold feet after most of the development work had already been done, Lotus decided they might as well carry on with it and badge it as a Lotus to fill in the void in the production line.

I thought that was said about the Europa - looks quite a bit like a Europa too...

I was hoping for more hard and agressive styling when I heard about this a while ago. I hope it comes to something a bit better than that!

ETA - I just hope they get the V6 sounding good and go well - maybe it could be a Noble M12 killer.

Edited by Foolish Dave on Friday 14th September 08:46

I'll say it again. That's not the Eagle. It's the Europa.

Err. the Europa is in production, just have to take a look at some pics to judge for yourselves...

[Tuna]

Monkey boy 1 said:

Tuna said:

I'll say it again. That's not the Eagle. It's the Europa.

Err. the Europa is in production, just have to take a look at some pics to judge for yourselves...

Sorry, didn't make myself clear. As I understand it, that's a concept car for the model that became the Europa - it's an old photo. Proton wanted a more refined version of the Elise, showed that car, then bottled it and left the partly completed design to Lotus. They re-jigged things to fit the company style and ended up with the Europa that is now in production.

Edited by Tuna on Sunday 16th September 22:03

[Foolish Dave]

Heard there were meant to me some media teasers going out towards the end of this year and a press unvieling in 08 for sale by mid 08.

Wonder what name they'll go with?

[Boggy]

Foolish Dave said:

Heard there were meant to me some media teasers going out towards the end of this year and a press unvieling in 08 for sale by mid 08.

Wonder what name they'll go with?

How about Elite?

Boggy

[Foolish Dave]

I've been told it's not going to be that, but not sure what to believe.
I know they are giving the old names an airing, but when pushed about the Elite they said no.

[Tuna]

Foolish Dave said:

I've been told it's not going to be that, but not sure what to believe.
I know they are giving the old names an airing, but when pushed about the Elite they said no.

If it's a 2+2, shouldn't it be the Excel?

[Foolish Dave]

It's a V6 too though.

I think it would be good to see Excel used again.

[marshalla]

Eclat came before Excel - then they got the mechanicals right

Seriously though - I don't see why they would need to re-use any names for a new 2+2 - Eclat & Excel have never had the cachet of models like Elan and Esprit. Time for a new name IMNSHO - what about Evasion, Elision, Eminence, Elephant or even Espace ;-) ?

Edited by marshalla on Wednesday 19th September 23:41

[hahithestevieboy]

Tuna said:

I've seen that photo a while ago, and believe that it's a Proton concept, and might have been a styling exercise for 'their' Europa. However, Proton are in the middle of takeover talks, and projects like this have apparently been shelved due to the uncertainty within the company.

It doesn't look like it's the Eagle - doesn't look long enough to be 2+2 and doesn't fit the descriptions that insiders have come up with (somewhere between the Ferrari 308GT4 and the M250).

Edited to add.... I may be wrong of course.

Edited by Tuna on Tuesday 11th September 20:18

I hope you're not wrong!! That concept is hideous.

[zaktoo]

I suspect they'll not be calling it "PMS" when it hits the roads though...