Lotus Excel

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scared but happy

Original Poster:

24,114 posts

236 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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What is the best book to buy to understand the working gubbins of this car? ie engine, gearbox, electrics ... well just about everything

For example:
Is the engine a Lotus own made or a modified other make like TVR?
Best place to get a new cambelt?

any information will be most helpful


thanks

Simonelite501

1,440 posts

275 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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The excel board(if its still running) would be a good place to start,
or the Yahoo lotus4seaters http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/l forum maybe.
Better still, buy an Excel and some spanners


>> Edited by Simonelite501 on Wednesday 15th February 20:42

Rob-C

1,488 posts

256 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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The excel board is now at www.lotusexcel.net

The Lotus workshop and parts manuals are available. (I've a feeling someone on the board has scanned them on a CD if you ask around?)

The engine is Lotus' own motor - same as the 4-cylinder Esprits (N/A). Gearbox & some other bits are off a Toyota Supra.

Genuine Lotus cambelts are available, but the equivalent is readily available from Gates - the part no. is on the Excel board somewhere.











>> Edited by Rob-C on Thursday 16th February 12:02

scared but happy

Original Poster:

24,114 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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Thanks all I will go and check them out. I am suprised that their are not more owners on here! Unless they are all in hiding?

>> Edited by scared but happy on Thursday 16th February 15:28

klassiekerrally

2,543 posts

262 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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I guess the same goes for the Eclat?
Some day...
... but first I need new spanners

scared but happy

Original Poster:

24,114 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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Rob-C said:
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Genuine Lotus cambelts are available, but the equivalent is readily available from Gates

Excuse me for being Mr Thicky Mc Thick III but who or what are Gates? link please..

Sam_68

9,939 posts

252 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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bluespanner

3,383 posts

230 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Rob-C said:
The engine is Lotus' own motor - same as the 4-cylinder Esprits (N/A).



is this not the engine based on a Bedford CF van block?

scared but happy

Original Poster:

24,114 posts

236 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Thanks for gates link. So where is the best place to get spares? Engine and otherwise.

John_W

121 posts

240 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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bluespanner said:
Rob-C said:
The engine is Lotus' own motor - same as the 4-cylinder Esprits (N/A).


is this not the engine based on a Bedford CF van block?


No.

Sam_68

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252 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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bluespanner said:
Rob-C said:
The engine is Lotus' own motor - same as the 4-cylinder Esprits (N/A).


is this not the engine based on a Bedford CF van block?


Nope, it's not.

Some early prototypes used a Vauxhall block because it happened to share the same bore centres, so it allowed Lotus to test the head for minimal cost. The production 900-series engines used an alloy block to Lotus' own design.

Sam_68

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252 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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scared but happy said:
Thanks for gates link. So where is the best place to get spares? Engine and otherwise.


The main specialists are listed here

Edited to add...
...just checked your profile and notice that you have actually bought an Excel project car?
In that case, I'd strongly suggest you pay a visit to the annual Club Lotus Show at Donington in a few weeks. Amongst other things, there is a Lotus parts autojumble where you may be able to pick up many parts you need for your car, new or second hand, and there will certainly be workshop manuals and parts lists available to buy.

>> Edited by Sam_68 on Friday 17th February 22:36

scared but happy

Original Poster:

24,114 posts

236 months

Saturday 18th February 2006
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^^^ I sure have I got it today by car transporter and its sitting in the garage at the moment waiting for parts. Shame I cannot make Donnington that would have been ideal for what I need.

I only require Dash, Window switch, and zillions of other odds + sods and now a Clutch oh, and its smoking like hell so maybe head gasket? - will have to investigate when weather improves.

Still roll on the summer so I can strip it right down.

M100

84 posts

268 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Sam_68 said:
Some early prototypes used a Vauxhall block because it happened to share the same bore centres.


Despite being in a different material It shares quite a bit more than bore centres. The fact that Vauxhall used a Lotus block for a while in rallying (in the Chevette HSR) and almost got away with it sort of proves it

Sam_68

9,939 posts

252 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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M100 said:
Sam_68 said:
Some early prototypes used a Vauxhall block because it happened to share the same bore centres.

Despite being in a different material It shares quite a bit more than bore centres. The fact that Vauxhall used a Lotus block for a while in rallying (in the Chevette HSR) and almost got away with it sort of proves it

Naturally, having designed a head to sit on the Vauxhall block for prototyping purposes, when they eventually got round to designing their own block it shared a lot of similarities...you aren't going to bugger about changing bolt positions, oil and water galleries etc., etc., just for the sake of it, are you?

Never the less, the bottom and of the Lotus 900 series engines are a Lotus design, in a different material. Not that this is necessarily a good thing...the early 900 series engines had big problems with block stiffness, though these had for the most part been resolved by the time the Excel was in production.

Rob-C

1,488 posts

256 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Sam_68 ... M100 et al said:
Stuff about the early prehistory of the Excel engine block


But it's not like you can get a new bottom-end for an Excel from a scrapped Vauxhall of any description is it?

So for the practical purpose of rebuilding an Excel, it's a Lotus engine, with Lotus parts prices and worse still, Lotus availability



Sam_68

9,939 posts

252 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Rob-C said:
Sam_68 ... M100 et al said:
Stuff about the early prehistory of the Excel engine block

But it's not like you can get a new bottom-end for an Excel from a scrapped Vauxhall of any description is it?


Nope, fraid not. If Bluespanner wants to drive a coupe with a van engine, he'll just have to buy a Porsche 924, I'm afraid.

size13

2,032 posts

264 months

Tuesday 21st February 2006
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I'm not hiding just didn't see the thread

You'll be able to get most of your bits from www.lotuseliteparts.bravepages.com/

Good luck!

MKC

4 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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Try here for your bits and bobs:-

www.lotusbits.com

or here:-

www.sjsportscars.co.uk

Both really helpful

scared but happy

Original Poster:

24,114 posts

236 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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SJ Sportscars is a very good site thanks.
Now to save my pennies. I was a bit shocked the workshop manual is £97 !