New Esprit must beat F430

New Esprit must beat F430

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Tuna

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19,930 posts

291 months

Tuesday 26th July 2005
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Having watched last week's Top Gear, though I'm not a Ferrari fan I've got to say the F430 was astonishing.

If the new Esprit is to be taken seriously, surely it's got to be in this sort of territory? Please let it be so....

What do you lot think?

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th July 2005
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I would have said more the 911 market, if the old Esprit's price tag is anything to go by. Still that's just as high a benchmark as any but with Lotus' track record you'd have to put money on them doing it.

Boggy

4,603 posts

242 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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Hi Guy's

I just hope the engine & gearbox are up to the task, Lotus V8's are quick but break very easily my poor old mate Norman spends his time taking them out then putting them back, Very expensive !!!

Boggy

Davey S1

13,140 posts

261 months

Friday 12th August 2005
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No it doesnt.

While the performance may end up being similar the Esprit will compete in a different market to the F430, Gallardo etc.

For a start it will be about half the price.

It will be competing against cars like the Noble M400 and sporty versions of the 911 etc as well as tempting people away from second hand 355's & 360's.

Lotus has always been an enthusiasts marque and I cant see that changing. People who have a lot of cash to spend on a supercar just to look good and say they own one (of which there are lots) will always prefer a Ferrari over a Lotus.

I think it wil do well but has some stiff competition.

S Works

10,166 posts

257 months

Monday 15th August 2005
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I agree that the F430 isn't going to be in the same league, you're not comparing apples and apples.

BUT, I disagree to a certain extent that you can lump the Esprit (at least historically) with a car like the M400 which is very track biased. The Esprit (apart from the 350 perhaps) was to me at least, always more of a GT with bigger bollix.

I'd say it needs to compete more with Maser's now and the likes of the TVR's and AMV8's rather than the 911 also.

You could argue that perhaps the Esprit will (depending on final cabin format and style), could even carve a niche of it's own. I for one though can't wait to see what it looks like in the flesh when the final design gets signed off.

Boggy, you have a point about gearboxes, but one thing I think Lotus have learned is the importance of a bomb-proof drive train and gearbox link-up. They'd never be able to get away with the shite arrangement that the previous models (and I include the Rover cack in the Elise BTW!) have had.

BTW Boggy, slightly off topic, but you must get me to introduce you to Andrew from the Kent Lotus group (posts as andyrew) who's also good mates with Norman - you may even know each other!