Lotus Future Now Secured

Lotus Future Now Secured

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Hedgerley

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620 posts

275 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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According to this weeks Autocar that is. They report that DRB have now signed off a new 3 year plan and promise further investment on top of the £100m they have put into Group Lotus since acquiring Proton. Not much new news per se but it does sound a bit more official this time, coming as it does from a statement by DRB's Managing Director. He talks about having 'fixed' costs, quality, planning etc. and is now ready to grow the company. Sales were 70 cars to the end of May against 80 for the whole of last year. Production is now ramping up to 40 cars/month with 85% for export.

He reiterates their commitment to further variants of the current platform but 'speculation continues' about the Esprit programme being resurrected for not much money as it was close to completion when DRB took over. We live in hope.

otolith

59,105 posts

211 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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I'm sure if it were bad news there would be a PH news article and circling vultures revelling in it.

Maulden7

147 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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I am told by a mate who lives in Wymondham that the factory is rehiring production line staff who had been previously laid off.

SrMoreno

546 posts

153 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Good news. I was speaking to a Lotus dealer yesterday who said that his biggest problem was getting stock. The demand is definitely there.

Hellers

136 posts

180 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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I was at the factory last week (Wednesday 10th) for the regular 2-hour tour hosted by the very urbane Lotus advocate gentleman himself, Richard Parramint. Great fun and hugely informative.

The annual August closedown for summer holidays is just around the corner and the target for the day was 11 cars off the line. And this was entirely believable given the number of cars right at the end of the line, funnily enough all waiting on window seals which they had run out of. That's Just In Time Manufacturing for you. I reckon there were at least some 2 dozen or so cars awaiting transport outside uncovered, all bound for China, a lot of which were white Evoras. And we were told there were other cars in covered storage too.

Production has certainly ramped up recently and I was left with the impression that quality control has improved and is DRB's primary focus. It was a very busy morning in the factory that morning.

Hedgerley

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620 posts

275 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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logistical

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136 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Well judging by the amount of jobs now listed on the Lotus website it seems they are gearing up for a major project. That has to inspire confidence that something exciting will come out of hethel soon! biggrin

Heathrow

450 posts

137 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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That's great news for Lotus.

There was a snippet in this month's Evo which was covering car sales generally. It stated that total sales in Europe were at a 20 year low for all car companies combined, for the 5 months to May. It claimed that in 2013 Lotus sold 17 Elises and 11 Evoras in Europe in total, which therefore implies that sales elsewhere and in The Far East in particular have been very strong for Lotus.

If Lotus is starting to build momentum in China, this can only be good news long term, given the potential market size. Wouldn't be surprised if we start to see some special editions solely for the Chinese market in the next couple of years.

Would also be fascinated to see what the order book looks like for the Exige Coupe and Roadster, given the excellent reviews these cars have received.

Mattt

16,663 posts

225 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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Heathrow said:
Wouldn't be surprised if we start to see some special editions solely for the Chinese market in the next couple of years.
'Swizzle sticks' edition?

Bebee

4,697 posts

232 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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Good to see, best of luck to all the guys down there, I went on a tour of the factory two years ago, well impressed! They seemed busy then.

Steffan

10,362 posts

235 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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It is indeed good to see a real chance that UK manufacturing jobs may be secured. However my experience over many years of business has suggested to me that without a real powerhouse of an individual driving the direction and focus of the company this is not in itself a guarantee of success.

Specialist sports car manufacturers are a very risky area of business. Without a Colin Chapman or something of his like to drive the business on through thick and thin the long term future must be open to question. At least now there is a chance.

otolith

59,105 posts

211 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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And as far as I can see, still no news story from pistonheads. They've run "Lotus is doomed" stories on flimsier news before now.

Frimley111R

15,989 posts

241 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Hellers said:
I was at the factory last week (Wednesday 10th) for the regular 2-hour tour hosted by the very urbane Lotus advocate gentleman himself, Richard Parramint. Great fun and hugely informative.

The annual August closedown for summer holidays is just around the corner and the target for the day was 11 cars off the line. And this was entirely believable given the number of cars right at the end of the line, funnily enough all waiting on window seals which they had run out of. That's Just In Time Manufacturing for you. I reckon there were at least some 2 dozen or so cars awaiting transport outside uncovered, all bound for China, a lot of which were white Evoras. And we were told there were other cars in covered storage too.

Production has certainly ramped up recently and I was left with the impression that quality control has improved and is DRB's primary focus. It was a very busy morning in the factory that morning.
Alomost identical to my visit in April (barring the window seal issue!) Still think the industry is living in the dark ages when it closes down for summer. I bet the Japs/Korean/Chinese don't!

Le TVR

3,097 posts

258 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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fatbutt said:
Or not?

"However, speculation continues that the Esprit project was close to fruition when DRB took over and that it could be revived at relatively little cost."

Tuna

19,930 posts

291 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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fatbutt said:
He's made the same claim before, I'm not sure if there's any new evidence that's emerged. Clearly it was on the line when DRB took over, and if you call if often enough you might turn out to be right.

To be honest, they need to do the walk before run thing. Get the Exige roadster sorted, do a convertible Evora, sell cars and build some sort of reputation for stability. It'll be years yet before the ghost of Bahar is excised, and against the backdrop of the Mclaren and Ferrari, any new Esprit is going to have to be astonishingly good to stand a chance.

It'd be nice if the project was close enough to get to completion, it'd be nice if it was as great handling as the Evora. It'd be nice if it undercut the competition by a good margin. But it'd still have to out perform and out handle them to be considered competitive. I could believe the handling part, but getting the power plant right is a hell of a challenge when you've been on the back foot as long as they have.

So I'd rather they brought the Esprit back when they're good and ready and have a business people can believe in.

Frimley111R

15,989 posts

241 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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I don't think the Esprit is ia Ferrari/McL competitor, they are c£200k cars now. More likely it would compete with 911/R8 models.

douglasgdmw

494 posts

226 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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Just wondering how much effort it would take to re body the Evora in the Bahar élan?

Would sell in bucket loads if they did.

George

Frizer

18 posts

169 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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It was also confirmed that Proton has signed a collaboration deal with Honda, although Jamil declined to discuss the terms of the arrangement.

Interesting.

otolith

59,105 posts

211 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Frizer said:
It was also confirmed that Proton has signed a collaboration deal with Honda, although Jamil declined to discuss the terms of the arrangement.

Interesting.
Too late, Honda don't have any interesting EU emissions compliant engines left.