Perth PHers - Were is commutable to these places?
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I've been having a good Google and have now generated a list of potential employers to whom I'm going to write in due course.
I've plotted them on the map below and you can see that most are concentrated in a few areas.
Each red mark on the map represents at least one potential employer - There are 28 on the list with the bulk being in in the areas to the north west and south of the airport.
The question is.... how far (in miles) can I consider a reasonable commute to these areas? I'd be happy to travel for 40 minutes each way either in the car or on public transport.
I'm looking at machinery manufacturers and mechanical engineering positions.
Any other thoughts on potential areas to live given this info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
I've plotted them on the map below and you can see that most are concentrated in a few areas.
Each red mark on the map represents at least one potential employer - There are 28 on the list with the bulk being in in the areas to the north west and south of the airport.
The question is.... how far (in miles) can I consider a reasonable commute to these areas? I'd be happy to travel for 40 minutes each way either in the car or on public transport.
I'm looking at machinery manufacturers and mechanical engineering positions.
Any other thoughts on potential areas to live given this info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
You could quite easily drive from the dot just above kenwick to the one at ballajura in less than 40 minutes as there is one major road (Tonkin Highway) that runs straight through there
There is no real public transport to the areas on the tonkin unless you live in the 5 mile radius of each dot other wise you will be catching mutiple busses
The one above Subiaco is a bad one as Perth traffic at peak times is terrible as no one knows how the drive over here
There is no real public transport to the areas on the tonkin unless you live in the 5 mile radius of each dot other wise you will be catching mutiple busses
The one above Subiaco is a bad one as Perth traffic at peak times is terrible as no one knows how the drive over here
If you wil be using the train/public transport to get to work (I.e the city) then anywhere north or south but near the major freeways (kwinana is the southern freeway, Mitchell the north) as the train stations are on the freeways.
If you are driving then live south of the river if you work south, live north if you work north as both will keep you within 40 mins of your work place. Pretty much anywhere here is within 40 mins unless it's rush hour and you're on the freeway in which case it's an hour +.
If you are driving then live south of the river if you work south, live north if you work north as both will keep you within 40 mins of your work place. Pretty much anywhere here is within 40 mins unless it's rush hour and you're on the freeway in which case it's an hour +.
http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/ for public transport options.
You are pretty much going to be driving to work if you are based in the industrial estates. None of them have train stations and bus links are not great, closes bus stop to me is about 3km away!
You are pretty much going to be driving to work if you are based in the industrial estates. None of them have train stations and bus links are not great, closes bus stop to me is about 3km away!
Quinns Rock....... To give you some impression of distance, I live to the top right of the map, in Aveley. It takes me 1 hour to get to Perth CBD.
Trains travel down the mitchell freeway (not on the road) so if your driving, or training, all roads lead to the Mitchell Freeway. Bad design. But a lot will depend on your travel time.
Trains travel down the mitchell freeway (not on the road) so if your driving, or training, all roads lead to the Mitchell Freeway. Bad design. But a lot will depend on your travel time.
Pommygranite said:
Why did you pick Quinns Rock? Actually why would anyone pick Quinns Rock?!
You need a visa to visit there from Perth it's that far away
Err.... You need a visa to visit there from Perth it's that far away
because they've featured it on a few Phil Down Under and Relocation, Down Under type TV programs and it looks nice!!We're planning an exploratory visit later this year but for now, I'm just trying to get some focus on where we need to be looking. At the end of the day its not the end of the world as we'll be renting initially and can easily move on somewhere else if required.
toomuchbeer said:
Quinns Rock....... To give you some impression of distance, I live to the top right of the map, in Aveley. It takes me 1 hour to get to Perth CBD.
Trains travel down the mitchell freeway (not on the road) so if your driving, or training, all roads lead to the Mitchell Freeway. Bad design. But a lot will depend on your travel time.
Thanks for the shout on Aveley, rental prices in the area look to be great value for money when compared to other areas.Trains travel down the mitchell freeway (not on the road) so if your driving, or training, all roads lead to the Mitchell Freeway. Bad design. But a lot will depend on your travel time.
What's it like in the area? I'm thinking of shops and schools etc. (no kids yet but you have to consider these things!) Does it get a little warm, being so far from the sea?
Goochie said:
Err.... because they've featured it on a few Phil Down Under and Relocation, Down Under type TV programs and it looks nice!!
We're planning an exploratory visit later this year but for now, I'm just trying to get some focus on where we need to be looking. At the end of the day its not the end of the world as we'll be renting initially and can easily move on somewhere else if required.
hahaha those programs are interesting. When i was in the UK from Oct to January just gone my OH and I were watching the Wanted Down Under and Phil Down Under and by and large the information seemed like a load of b because they've featured it on a few Phil Down Under and Relocation, Down Under type TV programs and it looks nice!!We're planning an exploratory visit later this year but for now, I'm just trying to get some focus on where we need to be looking. At the end of the day its not the end of the world as we'll be renting initially and can easily move on somewhere else if required.
ks. They seemed to mark wages down and purchases in Oz ultra expensive. Some of the figures were just way out. The other thing was that people lived in some 3 bed, 1 bath s
tbox in Sheffield and wanted to move to Oz, but want a new massive 4 bed 2 bath double garage house on 1000m2 of land 2 minutes from the beach and city and wonder why the couldnt afford it - well duh, if you want to live somewhere nice and near the beach you're going to pay in excess of average UK prices! Thats why Quinns Rock is affordable. Yeah its near the beach but its bloody miles out of Perth and places to do/go. Also consider how often you'll go to the beach. Nice sense of lifestyle but not much 'soul' if that makes sense.In addition it will feel like ages to get anywhere.Perhaps post up what you and the missus like doing (i.e coffee out in a nice cosmo district, bands and pubs, cinema, where she might work etc) and we might be able to point you to the relevant area.
And remember, if its cheap, theres are reason. Most suburbs 35-1hr out of perth are perfectly decent, nice houses, safe, quiet etc but they may not have much round them. Its a balancing act.
I would state that there are actually very few bad areas in Perth. Mostly east to immediately North east of the city and a little south east. I wouldnt live in:
Nollamara
Balga
Armadale
Koondoola
Midland
Goochie said:
Thanks for the shout on Aveley, rental prices in the area look to be great value for money when compared to other areas.
What's it like in the area? I'm thinking of shops and schools etc. (no kids yet but you have to consider these things!) Does it get a little warm, being so far from the sea?
If you don't have children, I doubt Aveley would be of much use to you. New shopping centre opening up, schools are good, neighbours seem okay. DONT confuse Aveley with Ellenbrook.!! Aveley is clasified as a private estate, meaning no homes west houses (council tenants). Ellenbrook seems to be where the local council stick all their unwanted tenents.!!!What's it like in the area? I'm thinking of shops and schools etc. (no kids yet but you have to consider these things!) Does it get a little warm, being so far from the sea?
Weather inland is typically 3-4 degrees warmer, but air conditioning solves that problem. On the plus side though, Aveley is in the Swan Valley, with loads of winery's. But with no children, Aveley is a no.
Also, if your other half isn't working, there's f
k all to do out here, and if like my wife, it took ages to get a job, and she nearly went mad.........I would agree with the area's Pommie has said.
Oh, we haven't been to the beach this year, so although the idea of living next to the sea is lovely, it's expensive and you will stop going once you see a shark, or helicopter hovering 10ft off the sea trying to move a shark along.
Perth's a great place, don't get me wrong. Do your homework, land in the right spot, or be able to move. When you rent, you will be locked into a minimum 6 month contract, usually 12 months. Don't think you can just give notice and move along. It costs a fortune to break a lease.!!
Enjoy hunting for area's.
toomuchbeer said:
Perth's a great place, don't get me wrong. Do your homework, land in the right spot, or be able to move. When you rent, you will be locked into a minimum 6 month contract, usually 12 months. Don't think you can just give notice and move along. It costs a fortune to break a lease.!!
Enjoy hunting for area's.
I haven't lived there for 11 years but I am there in spirit most days!! well not so much Perth more the Goldfields and the Pilbara. Friends still live there. I agree, look around....hire a car and drive around some suburbs. The Hills are nice too, but not if you don't like bushfires. Highly recommend Air conditioning...I survived about 1 month in summer without it, then caved in. I had to sleep during the day for work and it was impossible without Air-Con. I know it has changed a lot since I left and houses are more expensive. Enjoy hunting for area's.
Thanks for the replies again, chaps.
My wife currently works in healthcare admin (in a vets, actually) so her skills are fairly adaptable to a variety of jobs. We'll be getting a visa on the back of my experience and qualifications as a mechanical design engineer.
We will be bringing our dog with us so somewhere with some decent areas to walk him would be nice. Equally, he provides us with a good excuse to get out and about and meet new people.
We love going the the cinema and also like the theatre every few months.
We're not too bothered about having a huge house and dont particularly want a swimming pool. In fact we often look back at our days together in our first 2 bed end terrace and think how great it was. DO they even have small houses down under?
As I say, we dont have kids at the moment but hope they'd be on the way soon after settling in 2-3 years time.
It would be nice if we could manage with just the one car to start with - And if I'm taking that to work, it'll leave my wife with nothing but her legs and a bus to get around. So if its going to take some time for her to find work, it would be nice if she can at least get to the shops easily whilst I;m at work.
My wife currently works in healthcare admin (in a vets, actually) so her skills are fairly adaptable to a variety of jobs. We'll be getting a visa on the back of my experience and qualifications as a mechanical design engineer.
We will be bringing our dog with us so somewhere with some decent areas to walk him would be nice. Equally, he provides us with a good excuse to get out and about and meet new people.
We love going the the cinema and also like the theatre every few months.
We're not too bothered about having a huge house and dont particularly want a swimming pool. In fact we often look back at our days together in our first 2 bed end terrace and think how great it was. DO they even have small houses down under?
As I say, we dont have kids at the moment but hope they'd be on the way soon after settling in 2-3 years time.
It would be nice if we could manage with just the one car to start with - And if I'm taking that to work, it'll leave my wife with nothing but her legs and a bus to get around. So if its going to take some time for her to find work, it would be nice if she can at least get to the shops easily whilst I;m at work.
Looking at your plans I would definitely be looking to stay close to the city or pick a suburb close to the Kwinana Fwy and Mandurah train line. You will be able to find a 'unit' to live in and if / when your family appears you will still be in a good spot. You will need a car for getting in to the industrial areas though.
Have you looked on www.reiwa.com.au for houses?
Have you looked on www.reiwa.com.au for houses?
Just dragging this thread back up the list a little in order to ask what Rockingham is like? Both in terms of a place and also commutability (nice word!) to the areas in the map in my first post).
The area itself looks lovely from what I can see and rental prices seem very reasonable.
Whats it like for shopping etc. ?
The area itself looks lovely from what I can see and rental prices seem very reasonable.
Whats it like for shopping etc. ?
Goochie said:
Just dragging this thread back up the list a little in order to ask what Rockingham is like? Both in terms of a place and also commutability (nice word!) to the areas in the map in my first post).
The area itself looks lovely from what I can see and rental prices seem very reasonable.
Whats it like for shopping etc. ?
Deviant lives near there so he'll absolutely best placed to answer.The area itself looks lovely from what I can see and rental prices seem very reasonable.
Whats it like for shopping etc. ?
Rockingham is a good area to be in:
It is a lot cheaper than closer to the city for a similar sized house. Rates, home and car insurance seem to be a touch cheaper to.
You are never far from the beaches which are all clean and safe.
Almost without fail you get a sea breeze every day, during the summer it is not uncommon for my patch to be a good 6 degrees cooler than the city. Believe me that makes a difference on a 40+ day!
We are well catered for with shops and shopping centres, not often will I need to go outside of the area to buy stuff.
Several train stations and on the Mandurah line that all go direct to the city. Most of the suburbs have buses going direct to the train stations or via the shopping centres. The Mandurah line is safe and reliable, my partner has no problem getting the train home at 11pm on a weeknight. The train is often busy still. A train from Rockingham Station will get you in to Perth centre in about 25 minutes.
Good entertainment options with a big cinema, bowling, beaches and the 'foreshore' area has a big park on the beach lined with coffe shops and restaurants. We also have an international standard drag strip and speedway track which is active most of the year. We are only 20 minutes from Freo and as above it's not long on the train to the city.
A lot of people will say "Ohhhh it's so far away" but in reality it is not. Most people that say that never go there! Rockingham has direct access to the Kwinana Fwy and on the weekend you can drive in to the city in 40 minutes, during rush hour that is more like an hour and 30 minutes though. My own personal record (on the XBox....) is 20 minutes CBD > Safety Bay Road exit...
You will also read people saying that it is a rough or bogan area, it isnt....simple as that really! Crime rates are low and it is generally a quiet place to be. Okay well there are a few bogans around but it is no different to anywhere else in Perth and lets be honest, bogans are pretty harmless!
Definitely give it a go!
It is a lot cheaper than closer to the city for a similar sized house. Rates, home and car insurance seem to be a touch cheaper to.
You are never far from the beaches which are all clean and safe.
Almost without fail you get a sea breeze every day, during the summer it is not uncommon for my patch to be a good 6 degrees cooler than the city. Believe me that makes a difference on a 40+ day!
We are well catered for with shops and shopping centres, not often will I need to go outside of the area to buy stuff.
Several train stations and on the Mandurah line that all go direct to the city. Most of the suburbs have buses going direct to the train stations or via the shopping centres. The Mandurah line is safe and reliable, my partner has no problem getting the train home at 11pm on a weeknight. The train is often busy still. A train from Rockingham Station will get you in to Perth centre in about 25 minutes.
Good entertainment options with a big cinema, bowling, beaches and the 'foreshore' area has a big park on the beach lined with coffe shops and restaurants. We also have an international standard drag strip and speedway track which is active most of the year. We are only 20 minutes from Freo and as above it's not long on the train to the city.
A lot of people will say "Ohhhh it's so far away" but in reality it is not. Most people that say that never go there! Rockingham has direct access to the Kwinana Fwy and on the weekend you can drive in to the city in 40 minutes, during rush hour that is more like an hour and 30 minutes though. My own personal record (on the XBox....) is 20 minutes CBD > Safety Bay Road exit...
You will also read people saying that it is a rough or bogan area, it isnt....simple as that really! Crime rates are low and it is generally a quiet place to be. Okay well there are a few bogans around but it is no different to anywhere else in Perth and lets be honest, bogans are pretty harmless!
Definitely give it a go!
Goochie said:
...........qualifications as a mechanical design engineer.
There is a load of work in Perth at the moment for design engineers so not sure why you'd be looking at the industrial estates. Most of the big consultants have offices in or around the CBD to support the massive investment in the resources boom up north. If you look on seek.com.au you'll see what I mean. I'm an electrical designer working at Hatch and we're currently recruiting for another project due to start soon. The number I heard today was 160 bodies required in the next 3 months!I live in Kingsley which is 18km north of the city. 45 minutes to work at peak time. 25 minutes all other times. Only 10 minutes to Hilarys boat harbour. If I didn't have kids, I'd probably have a place in Scarborough given the choice.
As for living near the beach, the previous comments are right - a lot of people never go. Personally, I'm there at every chance I get to go surfing. The kids love the beach as well.
Sharks - only had the helicopter hover 30 feet above me once. The pilot announced over the loud speaker that everyone was to get out of the sea because of a rip tide!!! There was no rip that day.
Thanks, Della.
The problem with the job sites is that most of the ads are from agencies who dont give much of a clue as to the potential employer. What I've searched for but failed to find is a list of engineering companies in the CBD. Those on the industrial estates are mainly manufacturers of machinery who do in-house design work. I found those through yellow pages.
If only I knew someone who could come up with some names of companies that are worth approaching in the CBD
The problem with the job sites is that most of the ads are from agencies who dont give much of a clue as to the potential employer. What I've searched for but failed to find is a list of engineering companies in the CBD. Those on the industrial estates are mainly manufacturers of machinery who do in-house design work. I found those through yellow pages.
If only I knew someone who could come up with some names of companies that are worth approaching in the CBD
Try talking to some of the agencies direct. They will know the market better than anyone and will be able to advise on the rates to expect and the type of projects on offer. Here's a list of a few below;
http://www.fircroft.com/South-East-Asia-and-Austra... - Perth
http://www.chandlermacleod.com/-223465/contact-us (Do a lot of recruiting for Alcoa and BHP)
http://www.swanpersonnel.com.au/ (local company that services a load of companies in and around Perth)
http://www.integritystaffing.net.au/index.asp (I play golf with one of the directors, Chris Norris)
Between those 4 agencies you should be able to find the job to suit you. Give them a call (rather than just sending a CV) and tell them what you're looking for and what your engineering background is and I'm sure they'll be able to assist.
Best of luck.
http://www.fircroft.com/South-East-Asia-and-Austra... - Perth
http://www.chandlermacleod.com/-223465/contact-us (Do a lot of recruiting for Alcoa and BHP)
http://www.swanpersonnel.com.au/ (local company that services a load of companies in and around Perth)
http://www.integritystaffing.net.au/index.asp (I play golf with one of the directors, Chris Norris)
Between those 4 agencies you should be able to find the job to suit you. Give them a call (rather than just sending a CV) and tell them what you're looking for and what your engineering background is and I'm sure they'll be able to assist.
Best of luck.
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