V8 or 6?

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Pommygranite

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14,307 posts

221 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Is a V8 too expensive to run in Australia (think Falcon or Commodore) now in comparison to a 6?

Of course it depends on your personal wealth position but in general is the V8 worth it?

Discuss.

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

274 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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As I can't be bothered to look, what is the differnce in l/100lm and servicing ?

I can cope with an overall $2/km incl depreciation, rego, insurance etc but everyone will have their own limits (I don't do that many kms !) (Will stick with the straight 6 for a bit though)

Edited by Bob the Planner on Saturday 12th February 09:53

Pommygranite

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14,307 posts

221 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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I think the difference is about 5l/100km or say $32.50 ($1.30 per litre x 500km) a tank. If you do 25,000ks per annum thats about $650 per annum more for a v8 over a 6. Roughly.

Not much but overall on 15l/100km fuel con x 5 (for 500ks a tank) that's $97.50 a tank and about $5000k for the year give or take a bit for a V8.

I'm a bit pissed so forgivey maths if wrong beer

deviant

4,316 posts

215 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Falcon Turbo might be a bit better when it is driven off boost...Like cruising on the freeway.

deviant

4,316 posts

215 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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I meant to add on above, the Falcon Turbo near as damn it makes as much torque as a V8 and can very easily be modified to out perform a V8.

The bloke that fiddles with my MX5 has got a last of the BF shape FPV Falcon with the turbo engine. He chucked an exhaust system, induction kit and a set of injectors on it and flashed the ECU and it makes 450bhp at the wheels and 800nm torque. It is properly rapid and the onboard display shows an average of 9.5L/100.






Pommygranite

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14,307 posts

221 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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But the noise man, the noise!

Has the guy with the BF still got a license?!

So the question becomes 2007 BF XR6T or 2009 FG XR6? both around $22-24k.

deviant

4,316 posts

215 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Yeah he is a gun driver, normally a top 10 finish in targa west in a showroom spec Evo. I have been in his Falcon, the noise is very nice and to me sounds slightly better than the V8s with the locally made 'performance exhaust'. It has a very typical straight 6 sonorous noise but with the addictive turbo 'wiffle'. The mid range punch makes you feel dizzy with that much torque on tap!

As for which model...The turbo will be much much faster but unless you find one the options book was dumped on (very rare) the FG is better equipped as stock. Manual FG are more common to.



Pommygranite

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221 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Sounds like a top guy.

I think owning a regular, usable everyday car with a dizzy punch sounds immensely appealing (obviously) but the exhaust you mention would lift up the car ahead of a V8 as I don't see any disadvantages of the 6T over an 8.

Given its going to be a work car the modernity and kit of the FG might win out.


Pommygranite

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14,307 posts

221 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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How's this for a 'cost of living in UK vs Australia' comparison.

Rang AAMI who insure our Mitsi enquiring about the cost to insure a 2009 Falcon FG XR6.

Car value $24k, business use. I'm 34 and they've given me free max ncd:

$939. Or about £600 full comp with a $400xs

When I was in the UK my Ford Focus 1.6 90bhp TDCI Style worth £5k with no business use was £1100.

So I get nearly 3 x the power, 3 x the value for nearly half the cost.

And who said it's way more expensive living here smile

motomk

2,163 posts

249 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Pommygranite said:
How's this for a 'cost of living in UK vs Australia' comparison.

Rang AAMI who insure our Mitsi enquiring about the cost to insure a 2009 Falcon FG XR6.

Car value $24k, business use. I'm 34 and they've given me free max ncd:

$939. Or about £600 full comp with a $400xs
If you pump the excess up, it might be even less.

Jader1973

4,227 posts

205 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Over the last 2 years I've had 3 SV6 sportwagons and am now running an SSV.
Commute to work is 114kms round trip, all freeway, although it is top start towards the ends most mornings (Citylink over the Bolte Bridge).

I record the fuel consumption, and the averages are:
SV6 1 = 9.4l/100km over 12668 km total
SV6 2 = 9.5l/100km over 12334 km total
SSV = 10.8 l/100km over 10737 km so far

The V6s were SIDI and the V8 has AFM.

So, not that much more expensive to run a V8, about $2 a day for me I reckon.

Pommygranite

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14,307 posts

221 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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True Moto, ive always found that a large increase in xs tends to give a small reduction in premium but I'll definitely look at it.

That's an excellent point on the V8 fuel consumption - $2 a day is nothing (well $600 a year laugh

It would be great to have a 6.0 V8 company car though - livin the Aussie dream!