What's the Aussie job market like these days?
Discussion
The wife and I have been toying with the idea of a few years (maybe longer) in Oz before we settle down and have kids. Having just sold our house with a view to buying another here in the UK, we're now seriously considering a move down under.
There is an Oz emigration/jobs show in Birmingham in a couple of weeks where exhibitors will no doubt tell us it's all great and everyone has a job etc.
But what's it really like?
My wife is a veterinary receptionist and I'm a degree qualified product designer/project manager - We're both 30.
There is an Oz emigration/jobs show in Birmingham in a couple of weeks where exhibitors will no doubt tell us it's all great and everyone has a job etc.
But what's it really like?
My wife is a veterinary receptionist and I'm a degree qualified product designer/project manager - We're both 30.
Bibbs said:
Get onto it straight away, unless you have the right jobs you'll have a long wait for the visa.
But it's a lot worse once you are over 30.
Still at the "seriously considering it" stage at the moment, and I'm sure I'll find out more as we look further into it but reading between the lines from what you're saying, you need to have a "right job" offer and contracts signed etc. before moving out there?But it's a lot worse once you are over 30.
Here is the 'wanted list' of jobs:
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-mig...
Seems like there are lots of jobs around if you can do any on that list...
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-mig...
Seems like there are lots of jobs around if you can do any on that list...
Bibbs said:
My mate emigrated about 5 years ago.
He was a workshop (several dozen CNC machines) manager for a casting/manufacturing firm.
He's now a project manager (down a step, from before) in a mining industry company.
He doubled his salary.
Lives in Perth.
He loves it.
Did he find the job whilst in the UK or did he take a job-seeking holiday first?He was a workshop (several dozen CNC machines) manager for a casting/manufacturing firm.
He's now a project manager (down a step, from before) in a mining industry company.
He doubled his salary.
Lives in Perth.
He loves it.
Goochie said:
Did he find the job whilst in the UK or did he take a job-seeking holiday first?
I think he went out first.From what I've seen companies don't really like looking abroad, they like you on the doorstep.
He has friends to stay with and landed on his feed pretty quick.
Perth is good for the engineering side of things. I've no idea about the east (and have little interest).
But saying that, there are places that sponsor your visa. Best bet is to get onto a forum and ask about.
There are two "main" ones I've found.
BritishExpats.com - for all countries.
PomsInOz.com - just for australia.
There is tons of info and even companies advertising.
Good luck.
You have to keep in mind that you can not just pick a job off the list, and go for that. You have to prove, with lots and lots of documentation that you have been doing that job for years. They love forms and tick boxes here.
If you can get an employer to sponsor you, it will be a lot quicker. The Goverment has stopped all indepentant visas until 2012. Put in simple terms, if you want to come over here, on your own, with no job, and you put your visa in today, it will not be picked up until 2012. Then you will be behind all the visa's that were submitted prior to you, ie maybe 2 years worth.
The only way in at the moment, is either with a job offer that comes with employer sponsor, or you have a job on the critical list. By far the quickest way is on a temporary visa called a 457. I came on one, and the visa was submitted and approved in 10 working days.
I flew out for a week, had 12 interviews already lined up, and landed all 12 jobs. The hardest part was choosing the right one. Visa was submitted in april 2008, I landed in perth in june 2008. Scary times, but worth it.
So in a nut shell, if your wanting, or thinking about it, you need to do your homework first. Good luck, it's a roller coaster.
If you can get an employer to sponsor you, it will be a lot quicker. The Goverment has stopped all indepentant visas until 2012. Put in simple terms, if you want to come over here, on your own, with no job, and you put your visa in today, it will not be picked up until 2012. Then you will be behind all the visa's that were submitted prior to you, ie maybe 2 years worth.
The only way in at the moment, is either with a job offer that comes with employer sponsor, or you have a job on the critical list. By far the quickest way is on a temporary visa called a 457. I came on one, and the visa was submitted and approved in 10 working days.
I flew out for a week, had 12 interviews already lined up, and landed all 12 jobs. The hardest part was choosing the right one. Visa was submitted in april 2008, I landed in perth in june 2008. Scary times, but worth it.
So in a nut shell, if your wanting, or thinking about it, you need to do your homework first. Good luck, it's a roller coaster.
toomuchbeer said:
You have to keep in mind that you can not just pick a job off the list, and go for that. You have to prove, with lots and lots of documentation that you have been doing that job for years.
Does that involve them contacting your current UK employer? I can imagine mine would not be very happy to learn that I was considering leaving.Bibbs said:
My mate emigrated about 5 years ago.
He was a workshop (several dozen CNC machines) manager for a casting/manufacturing firm.
He's now a project manager (down a step, from before) in a mining industry company.
He doubled his salary.
Lives in Perth.
He loves it.
There are lots of stories like this one around and there are a lot of people being paid a lot of money to work for the mining companies.He was a workshop (several dozen CNC machines) manager for a casting/manufacturing firm.
He's now a project manager (down a step, from before) in a mining industry company.
He doubled his salary.
Lives in Perth.
He loves it.
Just do a little bit of research though, there is a lot of uncertainty around that industry at the moment, the industry is not going to leave Aus however projects have been scaled back, halted and some not even going ahead anymore. There have been cutbacks on staff to.
Bibbs, I'm in Architecture, and when I came it boom time, things went through a very rough patch, but work is now starting to come through the door again.
Gouchie, None of them contacted the UK employer, but my employers did know, as I was offered a partnership in the firm, and turned it down to come here
So, they would have known all about it, had the Ozzie firms contacted them.
I would add, any job you land here, will not be in the same position as when you left the UK. Consider a 5 year step back in your career as the norm! More money or not, it still hurts.
Gouchie, None of them contacted the UK employer, but my employers did know, as I was offered a partnership in the firm, and turned it down to come here
So, they would have known all about it, had the Ozzie firms contacted them.I would add, any job you land here, will not be in the same position as when you left the UK. Consider a 5 year step back in your career as the norm! More money or not, it still hurts.
Bibbs, I'm in Architecture, and when I came it boom time, things went through a very rough patch, but work is now starting to come through the door again.
Gouchie, None of them contacted the UK employer, but my employers did know, as I was offered a partnership in the firm, and turned it down to come here So, they would have known all about it, had the Ozzie firms contacted them.
I would add, any job you land here, will not be in the same position as when you left the UK. Consider a 5 year step back in your career as the norm! More money or not, it still hurts.
Gouchie, None of them contacted the UK employer, but my employers did know, as I was offered a partnership in the firm, and turned it down to come here
So, they would have known all about it, had the Ozzie firms contacted them.I would add, any job you land here, will not be in the same position as when you left the UK. Consider a 5 year step back in your career as the norm! More money or not, it still hurts.
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