Blimey. There is no election thread !

Blimey. There is no election thread !

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Bob the Planner

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4,695 posts

274 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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Given the coverage on the UK elction, I'm surprised there is not thread on here.

smack

9,738 posts

196 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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I have seen Gillard on the BBC when she took over, and on Oz news sites, she made my skin crawl. When I found out she worked for Slater and Gordon, it all made sense....

deviant

4,316 posts

215 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Because they are all gobstes undeserving of any attention? Because people are jaded by the enforced 2 party system?


Captain Flashman

653 posts

176 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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smack said:
I have seen Gillard on the BBC when she took over, and on Oz news sites, she made my skin crawl. When I found out she worked for Slater and Gordon, it all made sense....
she was a senior partner at slater and gordon.

its looking more and more like a hung parliament, with labor forming a minority government with the support of the greens.

the libs ran on a platform of racism and labor just said well at least we aren't as bad as the other mob.

The country is badly split north\south the northern states have backed the liberals and their campaign against the minerals resources tax and boat people, while the southern states have moved heavily to the left, with big support for the greens and the government.

astonmartinv8

79 posts

230 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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No surprise.

I saw a couple of great quotes - first that Gillard and Abbott were political pygmies!! Second was that Australia was a country blessed with first class resources and second class politicians.

From what I have seen, which is truly bizzare, that just about sums it up for me. I have no idea what they stand for.

I am so pleased we will see them desperately fighting for scraps over the next few days!!

Edited by astonmartinv8 on Sunday 22 August 07:00

Captain Flashman

653 posts

176 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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astonmartinv8 said:
No surprise.

I saw a couple of great quotes - first that Gillard and Abbott were political pygmies!! Second was that Australia was a country blessed with first class resources and second class politicians.

From what I have seen, which is truly bizzare, that just about sums it up for me. I have no idea what they stand for.

I am so pleased we will see them desperately fighting for scraps over the next few days!!

Edited by astonmartinv8 on Sunday 22 August 07:00
i'm not!!! i'm from here... only good news is that the greens are getting close to taking large chunks of inner melbourne off the major parties

PomBstard

7,027 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Maybe a bit surprising for PH not to have a thread, but most Aussies I speak with don't really give a hoot about Federal politics - its all the transport, education and health stuff that goes on at State level that generates the miniscule amount of interest the average local I've spoken with will ever have on the topic.

And as a resident of Abbott's constituency, I care even less. The Libs went on about how Labour weren't fit to rule, and Labour said that Abbott was a liar. Both as negatively appallingly bad as each other. In the time I've been over here, I'm not sure I've seen a politician I could ever consider as a leader.

motomk

2,163 posts

249 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Get rid of one layer of Bureaucracy, why do we need three? Local, state and federal!
Watching the news last night and they said quote... "There has been a massive turnout..."
Well of course there has, you wellingtons, we ALL have to vote!

Captain Flashman

653 posts

176 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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motomk said:
Get rid of one layer of Bureaucracy, why do we need three? Local, state and federal!
Watching the news last night and they said quote... "There has been a massive turnout..."
Well of course there has, you wellingtons, we ALL have to vote!
local councils are bastions of corruption and egotism, they serve as a training ground for party hacks as they work their way up the political ladder. they should be abolished and their responsibilities assumed by the states.

the shared funding arrangements between the states and commonwealth on education and health should end and responsibility should be assumed by the commonwealth.

and proportional representation should be brought in for the lower house to shatter the 2 party system.

end rant.

Bibbs

3,733 posts

215 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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A choice between a religious nutter and a socialist. Wonderful.

As an Australian, I'm glad that I was in the UK and wasn't forced to make a choice (you have to vote in Aus, or recieve a fine)

Colonial

13,553 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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PomBstard said:
Maybe a bit surprising for PH not to have a thread, but most Aussies I speak with don't really give a hoot about Federal politics - its all the transport, education and health stuff that goes on at State level that generates the miniscule amount of interest the average local I've spoken with will ever have on the topic.

And as a resident of Abbott's constituency, I care even less. The Libs went on about how Labour weren't fit to rule, and Labour said that Abbott was a liar. Both as negatively appallingly bad as each other. In the time I've been over here, I'm not sure I've seen a politician I could ever consider as a leader.
I’m pretty interested in the political system but this election I just did not care about. It was a choice between two evils. Both were essentially as bad as one another. Just different versions of bad. In the end I decided the ALP were the least bad, as at least there wasn’t as much xenophobic crap. And I do think that the money invested in infrastructure and spending (even with the waste associated) did do very impressive things to keep Australia in a strong economic position.

I just moved to Warringah (Abbott electorate) as well. I’m in Mosman. Where are you?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

260 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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That socialist bint of yours...

Please tell her to speak English...

Thank you...smile

deviant

4,316 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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Bibbs said:
A choice between a religious nutter and a socialist. Wonderful.

As an Australian, I'm glad that I was in the UK and wasn't forced to make a choice (you have to vote in Aus, or recieve a fine)
You dont actually have to cast a vote, you just need to go and tick your name off the list. It's a piece of information I wish more people knew.

Having said that I did hear a snippet in the news this morning that there has been an unusually high number of informal votes for this election.

Colonial said:
PomBstard said:
Maybe a bit surprising for PH not to have a thread, but most Aussies I speak with don't really give a hoot about Federal politics - its all the transport, education and health stuff that goes on at State level that generates the miniscule amount of interest the average local I've spoken with will ever have on the topic.

And as a resident of Abbott's constituency, I care even less. The Libs went on about how Labour weren't fit to rule, and Labour said that Abbott was a liar. Both as negatively appallingly bad as each other. In the time I've been over here, I'm not sure I've seen a politician I could ever consider as a leader.
I’m pretty interested in the political system but this election I just did not care about. It was a choice between two evils. Both were essentially as bad as one another. Just different versions of bad. In the end I decided the ALP were the least bad, as at least there wasn’t as much xenophobic crap. And I do think that the money invested in infrastructure and spending (even with the waste associated) did do very impressive things to keep Australia in a strong economic position.

I just moved to Warringah (Abbott electorate) as well. I’m in Mosman. Where are you?
Out of interest Colonial, why did you stick to the big 2 if you felt they were both evil and not cast your vote elsewhere? You have your reasons and I am not looking to pick at you, just interested to know.

Agree with Pom, none of the parties really gave a reason to vote for them. Their advertising was particularly weak and childish "A vote for blah blah is a vote for disaster" type crap filmed in black and white with hummy music and they did not push their policies.

FWIW I am not yet eligable to vote but I do take a strong interest in politics. Had I been able to vote for this election I would likely have chucked a blank card in the box. I do not think any of the candidates are strong leaders or had the total package when it came to policies. I also do not believe the current system of voting is a good one and I do not believe the government is run as well as it can be.

Colonial

13,553 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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Dev, I didn’t stick with the big 2 – I just thought the ALP was less bad. As a result, the ALP candidate was 4 for me, the Lib (Abbott) was 5. 1 was the Australian Sex Party. The other 2 choices in my seat were the Australian Secular Party and the Greens.

PomBstard

7,027 posts

247 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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mybrainhurts said:
That socialist bint of yours...

Please tell her to speak English...

Thank you...smile
Ahh, but she's from Barry, see. And I don't mean O'Farrell.

PomBstard

7,027 posts

247 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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PomBstard said:
And as a resident of Abbott's constituency...
Colonial said:


I just moved to Warringah (Abbott electorate) as well. I’m in Mosman. Where are you?
Other side of Spit Bridge - Manly

deviant said:
Agree with Pom
Ta very much

deviant said:
none of the parties really gave a reason to vote for them. Their advertising was particularly weak and childish "A vote for blah blah is a vote for disaster" type crap filmed in black and white with hummy music and they did not push their policies.
Reminded me of the 2001 (??) election in the UK when there were all the posters of Blair with the red eyes, and Conservatives running scare campaigns. Labour then couldn't identify itself with strong policies, and Labor here seem to be no different.

Oh well, in the proper Aussie spirit of politics, back to the beach/bar/barbie biggrin

Colonial

13,553 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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Well, we have a government now.

Windsor and Oakeshott supported Gillard.

Captain Flashman

653 posts

176 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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I really didn't notice much had changed when we didn't have one...

deviant

4,316 posts

215 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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I don't think it is going to be a stable government and probably won't see a full term. The grip on power is to small for them to be able to work properly.

I was fascinated by the complete lack of press coverage starting about 2 days post election. One day every headline is election news and then nothing, even today is a bit "and in other news...."
The mainstream press reflect what their readers/watchers/listeners want....I suspect that either the average Joe has a 5 minute attention span or just doesn't care.