'Safety' cameras in NSW, you should read this

[Google [bot]]

Hi Guys,

A warning about new 'safety cameras' that have been installed in NSW (don't know about other states).
Last night I was flashed on the City Westlink (just after the change from a 70kph crawl to a 60kph absurdity). I actually spotted the sign way off, thought it was new and considered whether to slow down or treat it as the red light camera it has always been. Considered that it might be one of those heavy vehicle 'Safe-T' signs and made a decision that I was okay since there was no other signage. I was wrong. Double flash ensued, really pissed me off. On researching this, the RTA website lists for fixed speed cameras:

'There are three warning signs installed on the approach to a regular fixed speed camera. These signs all depict an image of a speed camera, together with an applicable warning message, in the left panel and the regulatory speed limit in the right panel. The three signs appear in the following order on approach to the speed camera and read as follows:

'speed camera 24 hours';
'speed camera ahead'; and
'heavy fines loss of licence'.'

None of these it seems apply to these new 'safety cameras' which are just a dual function speeding and red light camera, so we just get the one little:



I was reading through the Act to form my defence for this along the lines of inadequate signage - transpires (after a call to the RTA) that it is currently just testing so I will receive just a warning, but it goes live next month.

Absolutely shameless revenue raising. Somehow in my 17 years of driving I have never had a point/demerit and to have that upset by such an underhand scam would really have pissed me off.

To see more on these and other locations of them:

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/speedandspeed...

Note that the one I got flashed by is not on the list so be careful.

Stay safe out there folks.

[Della]

It's double demerit points in WA now until the 3rd January so I can't afford to be done for speeding again. I picked up 6 points in October on a double demerit public holiday so one more of them and it's bye bye license.

I've just had the boost wound up a little on the skyline as well but I'm too scared to put my foot down now!

I'll look out for those cameras over here - cheers for the heads-up on that one.

[fluffnik]

Any politician who supports scameras is the enemy and worthy of destruction...

[gwasoc]

Della said:

It's double demerit points in WA now until the 3rd January so I can't afford to be done for speeding again. I picked up 6 points in October on a double demerit public holiday so one more of them and it's bye bye license.

I've just had the boost wound up a little on the skyline as well but I'm too scared to put my foot down now!

I'll look out for those cameras over here - cheers for the heads-up on that one.

Double demerit point boil my p*ss (and yes I have suffered for it). Thursday:- you are speeding, Friday:- you are speeding twice as bad??? What other "crimes" have different penalties depending upon the date? Just imagine the judge saying this - OK you little scrote, shoplifting in the holidays is way worse than at other times, you are grounded for two weeks instead of one...

[Night Rider]

Google [bot] said:

Considered that it might be one of those heavy vehicle 'Safe-T' signs and made a decision that I was okay since there was no other signage. I was wrong. Double flash ensued, really pissed me off.

.....so let me get this right, you admit you were exceeding the posted speed limit by 10kph, saw the camera sign and still continued to speed?

Outstanding!! You get what you deserve.

[Google [bot]]

Night Rider said:

Google [bot] said:

Considered that it might be one of those heavy vehicle 'Safe-T' signs and made a decision that I was okay since there was no other signage. I was wrong. Double flash ensued, really pissed me off.

.....so let me get this right, you admit you were exceeding the posted speed limit by 10kph, saw the camera sign and still continued to speed?

Outstanding!! You get what you deserve.

That's exactly what I did, safe in the knowledge that in NSW 3 signs are required before a fixed speed camera which is completely different signage and clearly states 'speed camera ahead'. I was also fully aware that there is a red light camera there and always has been.