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Hi Guys,
I'm going through all the options and trying to work out if I need to bring spare parts over with me when I come out with the Noble next year.
My car uses the Gearbox from the Ford mondeo from 2000 (5 spd) it is a MTX75.
Do you know if any Fords in Oz use this gearbox, in case one day I want to replace mine or get a spare to beef it up ready for more power.
Cheers
Bondy
I'm going through all the options and trying to work out if I need to bring spare parts over with me when I come out with the Noble next year.
My car uses the Gearbox from the Ford mondeo from 2000 (5 spd) it is a MTX75.
Do you know if any Fords in Oz use this gearbox, in case one day I want to replace mine or get a spare to beef it up ready for more power.
Cheers
Bondy
Found this on Carsales.com.au 2000 ST24 2.5 V6 manual?
http://tiny.cc/ZlUIA
15+ years ago, if it was a Ford part, a dealer could order in. Don't know about now
http://tiny.cc/ZlUIA
15+ years ago, if it was a Ford part, a dealer could order in. Don't know about now
mgbond said:
The reason I can't go to ford is because the Box is obsolete so I need to know if it is fitted to any other fords out there in OZ (Did you have the Mondeo out there?)
Bondy
Looks like the Mondeo was out there since 96, but I can't remember them on the road so it wasn't a big seller.Bondy
For Fords, the usual gearbox mix for cars sold is - small car ie. Festy more manuals than autos. Medium car with a 2l size motor, more autos than manuals. Large car ie Falcon with I6/V8 most autos, manuals rare. Performance Falcons, mostly autos, but a reasonable amount of manuals.
Looks like from googling the local made Fords use Borg Warner / Tremec's from the States over the years (T5's, T56, TR6060), which is no use to you unfortuantly.
Send an email to a few dealers and see what they say.
Both the Mondeo and Focus were sold here - just not in big numbers.
The Focus (Mk 1) in 1.6, 2 and whatever the ST170 form was, the Mk 2 in 1.6, 2.0 (I think) and ST 2.5 turbo
The Mondeo was sold here from around 96 to 02-ish. We never get the one before the current shape. It was sold in both 2 and 2.5V6 versions.
They weren't big sellers by any means - things like the Vectra, the 626 and Subaru Liberty (Legacy) all outsold them by a large margin. But because they were official Ford products they should have parts in stock. Or at least be able to get them in relatively quickly.
The Focus (Mk 1) in 1.6, 2 and whatever the ST170 form was, the Mk 2 in 1.6, 2.0 (I think) and ST 2.5 turbo
The Mondeo was sold here from around 96 to 02-ish. We never get the one before the current shape. It was sold in both 2 and 2.5V6 versions.
They weren't big sellers by any means - things like the Vectra, the 626 and Subaru Liberty (Legacy) all outsold them by a large margin. But because they were official Ford products they should have parts in stock. Or at least be able to get them in relatively quickly.
I wonder if Ford Aus would actually have to source the gearbox from abroad anyway at great cost and with a very long turn around time?
They sold very few of the first Mondeo's..so few that they would be practically obsolete now. I know we only got a small range of cars, top spec being the 2.0.
The problem Ford ran in to was that back then it was a similar price to the Falcon but smaller, with a 4cyl engine and FWD (important shopping criteria in Aus!) so they never sold well and were dropped quite quickly.
They sold very few of the first Mondeo's..so few that they would be practically obsolete now. I know we only got a small range of cars, top spec being the 2.0.
The problem Ford ran in to was that back then it was a similar price to the Falcon but smaller, with a 4cyl engine and FWD (important shopping criteria in Aus!) so they never sold well and were dropped quite quickly.
Just to clarify, Ford can not source the gearbox as its not made anymore. this is why I'm trying to determine what cars had them fitted so I can obtain a 2nd hand one out there rather than having to take one with me. Worst case I could ship one from uk to Oz at a later date.
I think I will contact ford in Oz and ask them.
Martin
I think I will contact ford in Oz and ask them.
Martin
Mazdas and Fords sometimes share a lot of bits.... There are a plenty of Mazdas. Any of the Volvos or Jags have them?
There are a few Mondeos coming up in the used car websites, but I doubt here will be cheaper than over there. I would brink a spare with you, then at least whilst one is getting rebuilt as worse case, you can get around.
There are a few Mondeos coming up in the used car websites, but I doubt here will be cheaper than over there. I would brink a spare with you, then at least whilst one is getting rebuilt as worse case, you can get around.
Edited by motomk on Thursday 19th March 02:19
motomk said:
Mazdas and Fords sometimes share a lot of bits.... There are a plenty of Mazdas. Any of the Volvos or Jags have them?
There are a few Mondeos coming up in the used car websites, but I doubt here will be cheaper than over there. I would brink a spare with you, then at least whilst one is getting rebuilt as worse case, you can get around.
Jag X Type V6? They were FWD werent they?There are a few Mondeos coming up in the used car websites, but I doubt here will be cheaper than over there. I would brink a spare with you, then at least whilst one is getting rebuilt as worse case, you can get around.
Edited by motomk on Thursday 19th March 02:19
According to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_MTX-75_transmiss... it was used in the 2.0 Focus, so I'd have thought there would be quite a few of them out here.
Not as many as autos, but still must have been a good few manual Focus's shifted.
Not as many as autos, but still must have been a good few manual Focus's shifted.
ajg31 said:
i would take the cowards way out and source in the uk and bring it with you in a container. even if you do find one mate its gonna be alot more expensive here than in the uk.
I would probably go that route to. In the UK there is a huge use of Ford parts in motorsport so you could pretty much get any part you needed any day of the week.I would think here you are going to have to hunt around for one and pay through the nose for it and then if you wanted to fit an LSD or mess with the gearset then I doubt you would find anything on the shelf here.
I'm already blessed with an LSD so it would be moved over if and when the gear box needs to be replaced. I only want the car to be just over 400bhp and the box can handle that so I suppose I'll see what money I can spare before I leave when buying some spares, might get one for a small amount.
Thanks for your help
Bondy
Thanks for your help
Bondy
mgbond said:
I'm already blessed with an LSD so it would be moved over if and when the gear box needs to be replaced. I only want the car to be just over 400bhp and the box can handle that so I suppose I'll see what money I can spare before I leave when buying some spares, might get one for a small amount.
Thanks for your help
Bondy
Your other option is to find an independant specialist that deals in your sort of car (a nobel may be hard, but performance fords perhaps) and get in his good books.Thanks for your help
Bondy
This is how my old porker is maintained in Singapore, the garage that services it specialises in old aircoolers, so part of thier business is scouring ebay, classifieds and scrappies in the region for spare parts, as well as 2 annual trips to Europe for parts and a trusted supply network.
The end effect is that i don't have to pay so much more for parts than in the UK, and often with no waiting time either.
there are as far as I know only 1 other maybe 2 Nobles in Oz. So not that much requirement. Most bits are ford with the odd part Nobles own. Other parts are from various cars and we try over here to create a list of these as and when Replaced so we don't get stung by dealers.
I will be looking for a good garage in sydney who are not shy in fabricating parts need to do the job.
eBay will probably be my friend and I may have to pay a bit extra for parts at first until I can work out if there are simar parts from Oz cars that may do the job.
Bondy
I will be looking for a good garage in sydney who are not shy in fabricating parts need to do the job.
eBay will probably be my friend and I may have to pay a bit extra for parts at first until I can work out if there are simar parts from Oz cars that may do the job.
Bondy
I doubt you will find anything on the Falcon you can use...one of the reasons Ford aus has run in to trouble is that the Falcon is unsuitable for export because it could not be supported outside of Aus, they did not use any Ford standardised parts ya see!
I think you will have to shop around a bit more for the Ford bin parts. Its not like in the UK where you could buy a Focus thats about to run out of MOT for £2.39 and strip it of parts. Cars do not lose their value much at all here os even an early Focus that has been crashed will still demand a few grand.
I think you will have to shop around a bit more for the Ford bin parts. Its not like in the UK where you could buy a Focus thats about to run out of MOT for £2.39 and strip it of parts. Cars do not lose their value much at all here os even an early Focus that has been crashed will still demand a few grand.
What would a box cost? 500 notes? This is assuming something is gonna break. Here is an example of how mental prices are here. Honda s2000 rotors and pads. Not fitted. Genuine parts. Stealer price of around 1200 AUD. Genuine parts from dealer in the uk, 600 AUD. Things that you know go would be ball joints, brake pads etc so worth having a years supply before you suss out whats what. When Noble were trying to set up Aus dealers the cars were with an asking price of 200,000 AUD. Have you spoken the the other Nobility owner we know in Adelaide?
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