Impending move

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djt77

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267 posts

230 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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So it's all go and I fly out to my new life in Perth no the 28th Feb.

Before I move are there things i should look into doing before move?

set up bank accounts register for tax number etc etc

looking at getting car/apartment during the 2 weeks before I start work. So any cheap motors going let me know smile

Is there a P/H meet regular like?

tim the pool man

5,005 posts

222 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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First thing you should do is look into bringing your car with you, assuming you have something "interesting" and have owned it more than 12 months...

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

274 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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Not got a date for my move as I am still in the process of visa application howeer aiming for the same sort of landing - albeit in NSW. The only definite things in the crate are my grandmother's clock and furniture smile and the Tuscan (half paid for by the other grandmother smile ) - the rest of the stuff I don't really have an attachment to.

Any advise on bank accounts / credit cards / health insurance / any stuff I may have forgotten will be gratefully received

Bob

deviant

4,316 posts

215 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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I [i]might[i] be looking to sell my car around then depending on next weeks wage review...just a basic 2.2 astra but for < $10K it will do the job.

Your TFN (Tax File Number) and Superannuation will be sorted with a few forms to fill out when you start your job.

Bank account should be easy to set up with your rental agreement (www.reiwa.com.au for searching rentals) and passport. Once you have got that going you will be all set with proof of address for anything else you want.

If you have got an interesting car and have owned it for more than 12 months bring it over, you will really regret not doing it! Something that might not be so interesting to you might not even be available here and will suddenly become desireable again. www.carsales.com.au is the default car search to give an idea of what is available and prices. Dont forget that on top of those prices there will be a few other fee's and if you are buying new you will need to add a ton of government and dealer charges on top.

A look through the PH Aus forum shows that WA is probably the most active state for PH'ers and we do try and get the odd meet going but we dont have a great track record of pulling it off laugh

Steve-B

736 posts

287 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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Bob personally would advise only selecting banks implementing European/ISO bank security controls. ISO 97766 or 7766 is the corect one. One bank here whose initials are in the very first 3 letters in the alphabet are not, and we discovered that thehard way when our Debit card was cloned and our cheque and savings accounts were cleaned out. Took ages to clear up and get our money back, won't do business with them ever again.

astonmartinv8

79 posts

230 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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I would set up a bank account immediately you get here (unless you can do it from the UK) get your TFN, driving licence (with proposed address on) and register for Medicare. Having got here in October, we found the most useful thing was a) the driving licence to prove your address to others and b) a statement from your new bank (stamped and dated) also to prove your address. Then you can get accounts for mobile phones and so on. Car wise, I agree with the other posts. Bring yours if you have something interesting and if you don't be prepared to negotiate hard as the market has fallen out of car sales here. 20% down in November, 15% down in December. Some dealers are saying prices will go up due to shortage of trade ins. What cack!

ajg31

1,455 posts

212 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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I would contact Commonwealth OR Westpac in London now and set up an account from the UK. 99% done on the phone. When you get here, just pop to a branch and sign your name.
I would also do your TFN as soon as you land. This can be done online so again easy as.
I also found HiFX great for moving money, and if you bank with westpac it makes it a tiny bit easier or faster as they are affilliated with HiFX.
Dont assume you will find somewhere to live quite so quickly, and i am only speaking form my own personal time here. As the rental market is still going strong, demand is VERY high in all areas of Aus. Expect to be with 10 to 20 otheer people on viewings smile Ohh the joy smile Example, 2 months ago the WHOLE of Sydney apparently had less than 600 rentals on estate agents books. Amazing

ajg31

1,455 posts

212 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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Steve-B said:
Bob personally would advise only selecting banks implementing European/ISO bank security controls. ISO 97766 or 7766 is the corect one. One bank here whose initials are in the very first 3 letters in the alphabet are not, and we discovered that thehard way when our Debit card was cloned and our cheque and savings accounts were cleaned out. Took ages to clear up and get our money back, won't do business with them ever again.
I banked with Barclays, and had my card cloned. As i was here i didnt notice it for two months. I had ALOT taken and you know what, i got NOTHING back (well 26 pounds actually). Long story, but basically all banks are fraudsters and couldn't care less when its not their money doing walkies...

djt77

Original Poster:

267 posts

230 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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I'm not going to bother with the car as only a CLK or the bike as cost of exporting inc taxes etc doesn't seem worth all the effort and the difference in price doesn't seem to justify it. If I had something more exotic then different story.

Was looking for bank that allows internet banking and transfers as I'll be keeping my UK account active and may need to transfer funds either way.

deviant

4,316 posts

215 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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Have you actually looked at the cost of replacing your vehicles here though? Dont convert it back to pounds either as you wont be earning / spending the pound when you are here.

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

274 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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I have had a look at the price of cars - I just wish I could bring the Swift over as well as the Tuscan !

Thanks for all the advise so far - keep it coming

deviant

4,316 posts

215 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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Bob I was looking at your Tuscan...simply stunning and broken down to a cost per mile makes complete sense to me!

I noticed though that you had a bit of a bingle in it in the past. It might be well worth you checking out if the vehicle is still eligable for import. Under the RAWS / SEVS import scheme cars with accident damage can not be complied for road use. I do not know if the same applies to personal imports though so you will need to do a bit of homework....unless it was not an insurance job and no record of the incident was kept?!
It would be a crying shame if you got it here and it had to go back!

ariddell

440 posts

234 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Previous accident damage shouldn't be a problem for a personal import so long as it has been properly repaired to the point that it would get through an RWC - chassis rails straight etc, just for REVS imported vehicles that it's a complete nono.

Colonial

13,553 posts

210 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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deviant said:
Bob I was looking at your Tuscan...simply stunning and broken down to a cost per mile makes complete sense to me!

I noticed though that you had a bit of a bingle in it in the past. It might be well worth you checking out if the vehicle is still eligable for import. Under the RAWS / SEVS import scheme cars with accident damage can not be complied for road use. I do not know if the same applies to personal imports though so you will need to do a bit of homework....unless it was not an insurance job and no record of the incident was kept?!
It would be a crying shame if you got it here and it had to go back!
My understanding was that accident damaged cars (rather than cars that had been in an accident but fixed to "as new") could only be imported as track cars. An accident itself as long as it is properly repaired should not pose any problem to a private import.

Steve-B

736 posts

287 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Sorry Colonial (don't know your RL name) that's incorrect:

DOTARS own website says on their website http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_reg... the following:

To be eligible for a personal import the following mandatory criteria must be satisfied:

the vehicle has been owned and used by the applicant for a continuous period of at least 12 months (3 months where ownership and use of the vehicle commenced before 8 May 2000);
at the time the vehicle is imported, the applicant is:
i. an Australian citizen or an Australian permanent resident; or
ii. a person who has applied to become an Australian citizen or an Australian permanent resident;
the applicant is of an age that entitles him or her to hold a licence or a permit to drive a road vehicle of that type;
the applicant undertakes to comply with any requirements as to road safety that are imposed in respect of the vehicle by the Administrator; and
the applicant has not imported a road vehicle owned by him/her within the year ending on the day on which the vehicle in respect of which the application is made is landed in Australia.

Copies of the following documents must be provided to establish ownership and use of the vehicle overseas for twelve consecutive months, or more:

every page of your passport including all blank pages
statement of travel. This involves supplying details of any absences from your main country of residence during the relevant qualifying period for ownership and use of the vehicle. If your travel was for business reasons you must supply a letter to that effect from your employer.
purchase documents
overseas registration documents in your name
driver's licence
a $50 application fee must also be provided.

Applicants from New Zealand and those travelling on a 457 "Long Stay Business Visa" will need to demonstrate their credentials as genuine migrants by way of:

employment details - letter from employer stating where you are working
rental agreement/purchase agreement for property in Australia
opening of Australian bank account
shipment of household goods
australian telephone/electricity accounts
australian tax file number
medicare card
enrolment of children in an Australian school
sale of property in home country
resignation from work in home country
cancellation of rental property in home country
entry stamp into Australia -until you arrive in Australia your Vehicle Import Approval is unable to be granted. (This only applies to New Zealand passport holders)

Further details may be requested to substantiate claims of ownership and use of the vehicle during the qualifying period.

Other documents that may be required include:

previous owner's deregistration certificate for the vehicle
vehicle insurance documents in the applicant's name
documents, in the applicant's name, in relation to the purchase of the vehicle, for example, cheque butts, bank statement/credit card statement, ATM withdrawal document, receipt from vendor of vehicle
documents, in the applicant's name, showing that the applicant paid for any maintenance or repairs to the vehicle
the applicant's passport with exit and entry stamps that indicate when the applicant left and returned to Australia and show that the applicant was continuously with the vehicle in the overseas country for the required period
proof that the applicant is currently resident in Australia
proof that the applicant returns to Australia with the vehicle
the applicant must produce a copy of both passports when dual passports are held
proof of the applicant's physical presence, continuously or intermittently, during a twelve month period in the country where the vehicle was purchased and primarily used prior to lodging a Vehicle Import Application to import the vehicle to Australia
evidence of the frequency, regularity and duration of visits to places outside the country where the vehicle was purchased and used
evidence of the maintenance by the applicant of a permanent place of abode in the overseas country during absences (eg telephone accounts, electricity bills).

Colonial

13,553 posts

210 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Doesn't say anything about accident damage though?

Perhaps what I said wasn't clear. Under the SEVS import scheme a damaged car cannot be imported then repaired in Australia for use on the road. Only the track

If a damaged then repaired vehicle is imported as a private import then I don't see any reason why it could not be registered as a road car as long as it passed the relevant safety inspections

Andrew btw

Steve-B

736 posts

287 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Hi there,

I get your point Andrew -- but I know from personal experience that the way to bring a car in is far easier on P.I. as you only have to pass visible smoke test, and not all the ADR compliance foo you would with other schemes. As long as the DOTARS folks when they do an HPI back in the UK don't find the car was a write-off, I can't see anything in DOTARS site that would forbid bringing in a car.

I think if he stays with P.I. from what I know, and experience of others, he shouldn't have a worry.

Cheers mate!



Colonial

13,553 posts

210 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Yeah, I think we are on the same page now. Both saying the same thing in different ways

Cars that are imported (rather than personal imports) are under a much more stringent set of guidelines which is where I think the confusion over damaged vehicles comes from

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

274 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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My incident was a small amount of cracking to the offside wing - No chassis damage and would have just been a small fibre (non-structural) repair and about 100 ml of paint. I can understand if there is chassis damage why there would be a problem - I may have to speak with someone to get the legal situation.

From the list of requirements it looks like I will not be able to ship with the rest of my household belongings. It also looks like I can't start the process until I'm in Aus and have a permanent address, bank account and whole other bunch of documents frown

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

274 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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deviant said:
Bob I was looking at your Tuscan...simply stunning and broken down to a cost per mile makes complete sense to me!

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Thanks - I quite like the car and if I can't bring it in I may rethink my career move !