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I suspect this will never happen.
If it does it will be brand new cars only, and the manufacturers/local importers will make it so hard that it isn't worth it. The volume guys make next to nothing on their product, and they are moving tens of thousands of cars a year into the country. Joe Public will not be able to do it any cheaper.
For high end stuff like MB/BMW/Porsche etc, you'd probably not find an overseas dealer that could sell you an Aus spec car because they'll be told not to sell new cars for export. Any dealer that did it would be risking their franchise e.g.
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/exporting-new...
Paying your own freight would be far more expensive than the manufacturers pay, then once it arrived it would need to have a compliance plate fitted, then you need to get it delivered to your house.
You'd have to insure it during the trip in case it got damaged (the carriers typically won't accept any liability), you have to pay customs etc etc.
You could get an agent to do all that for you, but I bet by the time you pay them, pay the duties etc it won't be any cheaper than buying locally, plus buying locally means you get the support of the local importer and their dealer network.
Warranty will be difficult, or will be made difficult.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of importers charge ridiculous money for their products (Merc, BMW, Audi, Porsche etc). The Government's time would be better spent addressing the excuses used to justify their pricing (e.g. by aligning ADRs with ECE regulations and hence remove the old "it is a unique spec" excuse) thus making it impossible for them to justify any difference in base ex-factory pricing with only freight and taxes being different.
If it does it will be brand new cars only, and the manufacturers/local importers will make it so hard that it isn't worth it. The volume guys make next to nothing on their product, and they are moving tens of thousands of cars a year into the country. Joe Public will not be able to do it any cheaper.
For high end stuff like MB/BMW/Porsche etc, you'd probably not find an overseas dealer that could sell you an Aus spec car because they'll be told not to sell new cars for export. Any dealer that did it would be risking their franchise e.g.
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/exporting-new...
Paying your own freight would be far more expensive than the manufacturers pay, then once it arrived it would need to have a compliance plate fitted, then you need to get it delivered to your house.
You'd have to insure it during the trip in case it got damaged (the carriers typically won't accept any liability), you have to pay customs etc etc.
You could get an agent to do all that for you, but I bet by the time you pay them, pay the duties etc it won't be any cheaper than buying locally, plus buying locally means you get the support of the local importer and their dealer network.
Warranty will be difficult, or will be made difficult.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of importers charge ridiculous money for their products (Merc, BMW, Audi, Porsche etc). The Government's time would be better spent addressing the excuses used to justify their pricing (e.g. by aligning ADRs with ECE regulations and hence remove the old "it is a unique spec" excuse) thus making it impossible for them to justify any difference in base ex-factory pricing with only freight and taxes being different.
Jader1973 said:
I suspect this will never happen.
I suspect you may be right, esp about it all being made difficult.Now, if the Govt could concentrate on removing that pesky 1989 limitation, we could get some more good stuff over here without upsetting the cartel, ahem, I mean importers of new cars.
If there was no restrictions and the usual importation costs applied I'm reasonably sure you could land a 458 Speciale for sub $500k but I'd be terrified no one would buy it!
The size of the market here is what puts me off not so much the price difference per car.
When they opened up the EU a decade ago a friend started importng Porsches to the UK from Europe and in one year sold more cars than the whole of Porsche GB. I think the market size and culture here is too different for that to happen but if it means cheaper cars then I'm all for it.
The size of the market here is what puts me off not so much the price difference per car.
When they opened up the EU a decade ago a friend started importng Porsches to the UK from Europe and in one year sold more cars than the whole of Porsche GB. I think the market size and culture here is too different for that to happen but if it means cheaper cars then I'm all for it.
This came up the other day on another forum, (ezakimak, on 14 Apr 2015 - 1:15 PM, said
and I had eluded to it in the daily dreaming thread.
what the article is talking about is reactions to what went through parliament earlier in the week.
I don't think anything has changed yet. they guys dealing with the RAWS & IVAS scheem and databases haven't changed a thing or been directed to yet.
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2015A00010
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2015A00010/Downl...
Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989
155 Section 7 (note) Repeal the note, substitute: Note: Part 4 of Chapter 3 of the Legislation Act 2003, which deals with sunsetting of legislative instruments, does not apply to a determination under this section (see regulations made for the purposes of subsection 54(2) of that Act).
Section 7 8 Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989 Compilation No. 16 Compilation date: 25/3/15 Registered: 10/4/15 Part 2—National standards
7
Minister may determine vehicle standards
The Minister may, by legislative instrument, determine vehicle standards for road vehicles or vehicle components. Note: Part 6 of the Legislative Instruments Act 2003, which deals with sunsetting of legislative instruments, does not apply to a determination under this section (see item 24 of the table in subsection 54(2) of that Act).
7A
Incorporation of documents setting out standards In determining vehicle standards,
the Minister may incorporate documents that set out standards: (a) produced by the Economic Commission for Europe, the International Electrotechnical Commission, the International Organization for Standardization or Standards Australia or by any other organisation that is determined, by legislative instrument, by the Minister; and ( B) in force from time to time.
Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989
156 Section 9 (note) Repeal the note, substitute: Note: Part 4 of Chapter 3 of the Legislation Act 2003, which deals with sunsetting of legislative instruments, does not apply to a determination under this section (see regulations made for the purposes of subsection 54(2) of that Act).
9
Procedures for testing vehicles
The Minister may, by legislative instrument, determine procedures and arrangements for determining whether road vehicles or vehicle components comply with this Act, being procedures relating to:
(a) the testing and inspection of road vehicles or vehicle components; or
( B) the inspection of steps in the manufacture of road vehicles or vehicle components; or
(ba) the testing and inspection of materials, machinery, appliances, articles or facilities used in the manufacture of road vehicles or vehicle components; or
(c) the operation of facilities used in the carrying out of any testing and inspection referred to in paragraph (a), ( B) or (ba) and the assessment of those facilities by inspectors appointed under section 25; or
(d) the keeping of records relating to the manufacture, testing or inspection of road vehicles or vehicle components and the examination of those records by inspectors appointed under section 25.
Note: Part 6 of the Legislative Instruments Act 2003, which deals with sunsetting of legislative instruments, does not apply to a determination under this section (see item 24 of the table in subsection 54(2) of that Act).
all downloaded from PDF here
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2015C00150/Downl...
we now need to look up what and understand what "Part 4 of Chapter 3 of the Legislation Act 2003" is.
and I had eluded to it in the daily dreaming thread.
what the article is talking about is reactions to what went through parliament earlier in the week.
I don't think anything has changed yet. they guys dealing with the RAWS & IVAS scheem and databases haven't changed a thing or been directed to yet.
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2015A00010
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2015A00010/Downl...
Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989
155 Section 7 (note) Repeal the note, substitute: Note: Part 4 of Chapter 3 of the Legislation Act 2003, which deals with sunsetting of legislative instruments, does not apply to a determination under this section (see regulations made for the purposes of subsection 54(2) of that Act).
Section 7 8 Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989 Compilation No. 16 Compilation date: 25/3/15 Registered: 10/4/15 Part 2—National standards
7
Minister may determine vehicle standards
The Minister may, by legislative instrument, determine vehicle standards for road vehicles or vehicle components. Note: Part 6 of the Legislative Instruments Act 2003, which deals with sunsetting of legislative instruments, does not apply to a determination under this section (see item 24 of the table in subsection 54(2) of that Act).
7A
Incorporation of documents setting out standards In determining vehicle standards,
the Minister may incorporate documents that set out standards: (a) produced by the Economic Commission for Europe, the International Electrotechnical Commission, the International Organization for Standardization or Standards Australia or by any other organisation that is determined, by legislative instrument, by the Minister; and ( B) in force from time to time.
Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989
156 Section 9 (note) Repeal the note, substitute: Note: Part 4 of Chapter 3 of the Legislation Act 2003, which deals with sunsetting of legislative instruments, does not apply to a determination under this section (see regulations made for the purposes of subsection 54(2) of that Act).
9
Procedures for testing vehicles
The Minister may, by legislative instrument, determine procedures and arrangements for determining whether road vehicles or vehicle components comply with this Act, being procedures relating to:
(a) the testing and inspection of road vehicles or vehicle components; or
( B) the inspection of steps in the manufacture of road vehicles or vehicle components; or
(ba) the testing and inspection of materials, machinery, appliances, articles or facilities used in the manufacture of road vehicles or vehicle components; or
(c) the operation of facilities used in the carrying out of any testing and inspection referred to in paragraph (a), ( B) or (ba) and the assessment of those facilities by inspectors appointed under section 25; or
(d) the keeping of records relating to the manufacture, testing or inspection of road vehicles or vehicle components and the examination of those records by inspectors appointed under section 25.
Note: Part 6 of the Legislative Instruments Act 2003, which deals with sunsetting of legislative instruments, does not apply to a determination under this section (see item 24 of the table in subsection 54(2) of that Act).
all downloaded from PDF here
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2015C00150/Downl...
we now need to look up what and understand what "Part 4 of Chapter 3 of the Legislation Act 2003" is.
Edited by ezakimak on Friday 17th April 00:04
papahet said:
Apparently there is going to be an announcement from the government in the next 24 hours that cars less than 12 months old and with less than 4000km on them will become eligible for import.
The SEVS scheme has not changed yet but over the coming months that will be looked at again.
Not sure how much that will benefit - the only things wayyyy cheaper to bring in are over £70000 cars and under really only the Elise and Cayman are real savings.The SEVS scheme has not changed yet but over the coming months that will be looked at again.
Maybe I'm missing something.
What interesting car under 12months and 4000kms is worthwhile?
I sense a few mileage adjustments per shipping will take place...
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