importing pre-89 911 - Due in days!!
Discussion
My lovely 911 is arriving in a few days (assuming my container hasn't fallen off the ship!). Has anyone any experience of what might be involved (if at all) in any modifications that VICROADS may require so that it is compliant with 911's of that era here? Or can I just get in and drive?
I am desperate to get my hands on it again - 4 months separation and too long driving boring family auto box jap cars.....
I am desperate to get my hands on it again - 4 months separation and too long driving boring family auto box jap cars.....
What year is it? Usually the amount of work required relates to the rules that were in place at that year. My 1986 car needed side intrusion bars rear 3 point seat belts and a cat to get it's engineers report.
Try and find a friendly and flexible garage who has a friendly and flexible engineer. I spoke to quite a few engineers who weren't helpful or gave me differing requirements but in the end I found a garage owner who's mate was an engineer and they did it between them with minimum fuss and cost.
James on here has done the same as you so may be more model specific.
Try and find a friendly and flexible garage who has a friendly and flexible engineer. I spoke to quite a few engineers who weren't helpful or gave me differing requirements but in the end I found a garage owner who's mate was an engineer and they did it between them with minimum fuss and cost.
James on here has done the same as you so may be more model specific.
custardtart said:
What year is it?
It is Nov 88 manufactured, Mar 89 registered in UK. It has 3 point rear belts, no idea about side intrusion bars, probably not. Did you import under the pre-89 scheme or as a personal import? I guess there may be different requirements. Were you in Vic when you imported your '86er? Have a chat to Rowan Carter, plenty of the Victorian ICV guys have good things to say about him.
Website http://www.cartech.com.au/
Being from NSW I have no personal experience apart from the odd webchat on Ozclubbies.
Website http://www.cartech.com.au/
Being from NSW I have no personal experience apart from the odd webchat on Ozclubbies.
suthol said:
Have a chat to Rowan Carter, plenty of the Victorian ICV guys have good things to say about him.
Website http://www.cartech.com.au/
Being from NSW I have no personal experience apart from the odd webchat on Ozclubbies.
Thanks suthol, will do. Looked at website, looks good and professional.Website http://www.cartech.com.au/
Being from NSW I have no personal experience apart from the odd webchat on Ozclubbies.
Biggest issue will be cats, the intrusion bars are pretty easy to fit even if the benefit of retro-fitted ones is doubtful. Cats were a requirement after 1st Jan 1986 here but not till start of 93 in the UK and I think the rules for 88/89 will require them to be a proper closed loop cat system with oxy sensors etc connected to the ECU if it's fuel injected, where as on an 86 car chances are you can get away with a more basic setup.
Make sure you declare the build date on any paperwork not the first reg date to ensure minimum set of requirements will apply, although I don't think much changed between 88 and 89.
Oh, and given it's Nov 88 build keep in mind it'll be eligible for club permit reg shortly, lets you drive the car 90 days a year for $170 and dirt cheap insurance.
Make sure you declare the build date on any paperwork not the first reg date to ensure minimum set of requirements will apply, although I don't think much changed between 88 and 89.
Oh, and given it's Nov 88 build keep in mind it'll be eligible for club permit reg shortly, lets you drive the car 90 days a year for $170 and dirt cheap insurance.
ariddell said:
Biggest issue will be cats, the intrusion bars are pretty easy to fit even if the benefit of retro-fitted ones is doubtful. Cats were a requirement after 1st Jan 1986 here but not till start of 93 in the UK and I think the rules for 88/89 will require them to be a proper closed loop cat system with oxy sensors etc connected to the ECU if it's fuel injected, where as on an 86 car chances are you can get away with a more basic setup.
Make sure you declare the build date on any paperwork not the first reg date to ensure minimum set of requirements will apply, although I don't think much changed between 88 and 89.
Oh, and given it's Nov 88 build keep in mind it'll be eligible for club permit reg shortly, lets you drive the car 90 days a year for $170 and dirt cheap insurance.
Cats sounds expensive. I invested in a new larger bore stainless exhaust a year ago. Can they fitted to that, or is it a whole new system? Any idea of cost?Make sure you declare the build date on any paperwork not the first reg date to ensure minimum set of requirements will apply, although I don't think much changed between 88 and 89.
Oh, and given it's Nov 88 build keep in mind it'll be eligible for club permit reg shortly, lets you drive the car 90 days a year for $170 and dirt cheap insurance.
Liking the club permit option - when would that come into play?
Compliancing engineer will be better placed to say exactly what it'll need, and it's worth speaking to a couple of engineers to see which you get the best feeling from.
The exhaust physical changes likely will not be the most expensive bit, it'll be getting it talking to a suitable ECU if you need to have it running closed loop that will bring on the $. Worst case could require tracking down a ECU and all injection, EGR and O2 sensing kit from an Aussie delivered car and proving you've set yours up identically to what an Aussie one would have had new. I have however heard of people fitting a basic cat system and converting the car to LPG to get the emissions down low enough to meet the regs for the time as a workaround, but that probably depends on the engineer as to which approach they'll allow.
I've done 2 pre-1989 Bentley Turbo R's, so not sure on the exact specifics of 911s but the engineers will very likely have done them before and know exactly what they'll want done to sign one off up front.
Club permits are available for any car over 25yo, great scheme for a car you wouldn't be driving daily, just fill in a log book line before you leave for each day you drive it up to 90 days a year.
The exhaust physical changes likely will not be the most expensive bit, it'll be getting it talking to a suitable ECU if you need to have it running closed loop that will bring on the $. Worst case could require tracking down a ECU and all injection, EGR and O2 sensing kit from an Aussie delivered car and proving you've set yours up identically to what an Aussie one would have had new. I have however heard of people fitting a basic cat system and converting the car to LPG to get the emissions down low enough to meet the regs for the time as a workaround, but that probably depends on the engineer as to which approach they'll allow.
I've done 2 pre-1989 Bentley Turbo R's, so not sure on the exact specifics of 911s but the engineers will very likely have done them before and know exactly what they'll want done to sign one off up front.
Club permits are available for any car over 25yo, great scheme for a car you wouldn't be driving daily, just fill in a log book line before you leave for each day you drive it up to 90 days a year.
Edited by ariddell on Thursday 15th August 01:19
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