So what's the general vibe in Oz at the minute?
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Since I left full time education I've been 100% set on emigrating to Australia once I had gained enough skills and experience to land myself a decent job out there. I have relatives who are Australian citizens and have done all the online checks for Visas etc and it seems I have the right combination of education/profession/family to get in no problem.
But more and more I'm reading about the slow down of the economy in China and in turn the terrible results being posted by the Australian mining industry. Also with property prices in the major cities rising as much as they have there's a lot of talk of a property bubble getting ready to burst. What's the general vibe out there at the minute? Are people concerned? Does the government have any extra protection against any major financial events that others don't?
I don't want to land out there in the next few years and find myself in the middle of an economic downturn and if it's looking like it will go that way I'll start looking elsewhere (Canada is looking promising).
Sorry to sound a little doomsday, maybe it'll all blow over, I'm just wondering if the gravy train is slowing down and whether it's still worth hopping on!
But more and more I'm reading about the slow down of the economy in China and in turn the terrible results being posted by the Australian mining industry. Also with property prices in the major cities rising as much as they have there's a lot of talk of a property bubble getting ready to burst. What's the general vibe out there at the minute? Are people concerned? Does the government have any extra protection against any major financial events that others don't?
I don't want to land out there in the next few years and find myself in the middle of an economic downturn and if it's looking like it will go that way I'll start looking elsewhere (Canada is looking promising).
Sorry to sound a little doomsday, maybe it'll all blow over, I'm just wondering if the gravy train is slowing down and whether it's still worth hopping on!
Depends where you go.
WA is about the only state turning profit at the moment.
Thats funding a small minority to become super rich. The average family is starting to struggle.
Mining *is* slowing, but just slowing the acceleration. New projects are still kicking off.
In Perth, there is still money to be made. You've missed a good few years, but it should continue for a few more yet.
I'm not in the mining sector (I'm in IT), and am doing okay for the time being.
WA is about the only state turning profit at the moment.
Thats funding a small minority to become super rich. The average family is starting to struggle.
Mining *is* slowing, but just slowing the acceleration. New projects are still kicking off.
In Perth, there is still money to be made. You've missed a good few years, but it should continue for a few more yet.
I'm not in the mining sector (I'm in IT), and am doing okay for the time being.
Bibbs said:
Depends where you go.
WA is about the only state turning profit at the moment.
Thats funding a small minority to become super rich. The average family is starting to struggle.
Mining *is* slowing, but just slowing the acceleration. New projects are still kicking off.
In Perth, there is still money to be made. You've missed a good few years, but it should continue for a few more yet.
I'm not in the mining sector (I'm in IT), and am doing okay for the time being.
IT is my line of work too so I guess that's good to hear at least!WA is about the only state turning profit at the moment.
Thats funding a small minority to become super rich. The average family is starting to struggle.
Mining *is* slowing, but just slowing the acceleration. New projects are still kicking off.
In Perth, there is still money to be made. You've missed a good few years, but it should continue for a few more yet.
I'm not in the mining sector (I'm in IT), and am doing okay for the time being.
Art0ir said:
IT is my line of work too so I guess that's good to hear at least!
What *are* you? What's your speciality?What area/city are you aiming for?
The IT industry isn't like the UK. Especially in Perth.
There seems to be a few consultancies here, and very few development houses. Mainly resellers with "value added".
Perth also has very little IT banking sector, it's all out east.
Also contracting is VERY popular. I had to setup my own company and trade through that.
All good info cheers folks, like I said I'm relying on external news sources and hearsay from some friends and family out there.
Bibbs said:
What *are* you? What's your speciality?
What area/city are you aiming for?
The IT industry isn't like the UK. Especially in Perth.
There seems to be a few consultancies here, and very few development houses. Mainly resellers with "value added".
Perth also has very little IT banking sector, it's all out east.
Also contracting is VERY popular. I had to setup my own company and trade through that.
I'm aiming to specialise in either Cisco or VMWare over the next few years. I have reasonable knowledge of both along with your boggo MCITP stuffWhat area/city are you aiming for?
The IT industry isn't like the UK. Especially in Perth.
There seems to be a few consultancies here, and very few development houses. Mainly resellers with "value added".
Perth also has very little IT banking sector, it's all out east.
Also contracting is VERY popular. I had to setup my own company and trade through that.
My view on it.
The Press reckon it is over because Olympic Dam isn't getting upgraded yet or has been delayed. I understand it was to be one of the bigger ones out there but there are still large ones being built.
I look after WA at work and yes maybe growth is slowing down... ie the amount of mines opening but there are now way more mines than there were 10 years ago or even 5 years ago. I count the gas industry here too.
We shake our heads at my work, 4 new places have popped up this year already. Another is due near the end of the year. If you want 2000 metres of tarmac built, the mining industry can do it real quick! They are raiding the east coast for workers too, they fly them non-stop across the country.
Back in the early 2000s, we had about 4 places in the Pilbara where they flew too, now it is up to about 13 major ones where they take a few thousand people a week from Perth. The Goldfields are not quiet either.
The banks survived fine as they weren't a mess like some of the worlds banks.
The Press reckon it is over because Olympic Dam isn't getting upgraded yet or has been delayed. I understand it was to be one of the bigger ones out there but there are still large ones being built.
I look after WA at work and yes maybe growth is slowing down... ie the amount of mines opening but there are now way more mines than there were 10 years ago or even 5 years ago. I count the gas industry here too.
We shake our heads at my work, 4 new places have popped up this year already. Another is due near the end of the year. If you want 2000 metres of tarmac built, the mining industry can do it real quick! They are raiding the east coast for workers too, they fly them non-stop across the country.
Back in the early 2000s, we had about 4 places in the Pilbara where they flew too, now it is up to about 13 major ones where they take a few thousand people a week from Perth. The Goldfields are not quiet either.
The banks survived fine as they weren't a mess like some of the worlds banks.
up here in the NT its booming, Not enough workers / properties, loads of jobs. Inpex multi billion dollar project, US Army building new base for 10,000 marines, an entire new city due to be built over next few years.
Everyone here just walks out of one job and into another. I quit the NT council where I was 3rd in charge on the Friday, Got a phone call from the government on the Monday and started on the Wednesday at the same level.
no idea about IT but if your a qualified tradie, you'll be making over $200k a year easily.
Everyone here just walks out of one job and into another. I quit the NT council where I was 3rd in charge on the Friday, Got a phone call from the government on the Monday and started on the Wednesday at the same level.
no idea about IT but if your a qualified tradie, you'll be making over $200k a year easily.
Fortescue Metals just laid off 1,000 people due to ore prices reducing from $140/tonne in April to the current $89/tonne. Smaller miners are going to fall off the map.
I'm in the web development industry servicing creative agencies and we're growing so it all depends on what you want to do.
The hosting company we deal with are looking with VMWare experiences people. They're based in Sydney.
I'm in the web development industry servicing creative agencies and we're growing so it all depends on what you want to do.
The hosting company we deal with are looking with VMWare experiences people. They're based in Sydney.
I work in IT but in project management. I get calls most weeks about something kicking off. I am not sure how it works with poms/visas but contracting should see you make decent coin.
Send me a PM of your resume if you like and I can put you in touch with some mates who work with/at Cisco.
Send me a PM of your resume if you like and I can put you in touch with some mates who work with/at Cisco.
dmulally said:
I work in IT but in project management. I get calls most weeks about something kicking off. I am not sure how it works with poms/visas but contracting should see you make decent coin.
Send me a PM of your resume if you like and I can put you in touch with some mates who work with/at Cisco.
I've a mate wanting to come to Oz, from NZ, who's studied a bit of Cisco. What location are they in?Send me a PM of your resume if you like and I can put you in touch with some mates who work with/at Cisco.
Bibbs said:
I've a mate wanting to come to Oz, from NZ, who's studied a bit of Cisco. What location are they in?
Sorry Bibbs. I should have said.I'm in Sydney. I can't promise anything but I can ask. First thing they will say is "what do they have?" so if I have a CV on hand I can ram it down their cold nerdy throats.
dmulally said:
Sorry Bibbs. I should have said.
I'm in Sydney. I can't promise anything but I can ask. First thing they will say is "what do they have?" so if I have a CV on hand I can ram it down their cold nerdy throats.
I'm in Sydney. I can't promise anything but I can ask. First thing they will say is "what do they have?" so if I have a CV on hand I can ram it down their cold nerdy throats.
Excellent. Thanks. I'll flick him an email and see what he's doing (he was looking at UK -> NZ -> Aus visa requirements last time I spoke to him).If he's interested, I'll be in touch. Thanks!
Cacatous said:
Fortescue Metals just laid off 1,000 people due to ore prices reducing from $140/tonne in April to the current $89/tonne. Smaller miners are going to fall off the map.
I'm in the web development industry servicing creative agencies and we're growing so it all depends on what you want to do.
The hosting company we deal with are looking with VMWare experiences people. They're based in Sydney.
Boing! It has bounced back up again over $100 a ton! China has approved $150 billion of infrastructure construction projects. I'm in the web development industry servicing creative agencies and we're growing so it all depends on what you want to do.
The hosting company we deal with are looking with VMWare experiences people. They're based in Sydney.
Just landed a few days ago. All seems to be OK, I'm looking to get into the mines as a civil/project engineer with 5 year exp, only really started applying the last few weeks. I havent got too much of a response yet. Gonna be interesting to see how I get on with all the news. I'm not sure what's the story with the IT side of things.
Its worth come just to hear all the V8's!!
By the way anyone know of companies hiring?
Its worth come just to hear all the V8's!!
By the way anyone know of companies hiring?
Chops9 said:
Just landed a few days ago. All seems to be OK, I'm looking to get into the mines as a civil/project engineer with 5 year exp, only really started applying the last few weeks. I havent got too much of a response yet. Gonna be interesting to see how I get on with all the news. I'm not sure what's the story with the IT side of things.
Its worth come just to hear all the V8's!!
By the way anyone know of companies hiring?
Find out the agencies that hire for them rather than going direct. Then schmooze/bribe/charm who ever you can at the agency to make sure you're top of the list when a new job comes in. By the time the job hits the websites it is already too late. Its worth come just to hear all the V8's!!
By the way anyone know of companies hiring?
Go to seek.com.au and do some searching to find what agency belongs with the different companies you want to work for. Call up and ask who looks after the Penski File account or the sector you want to aim for. Keep calling until you speak to them and ask if you can come in to meet them rather than saying "got any jobs?" Recruiters have a quota of face time with noobs a week so they will say yes.
Good luck!
dmulally said:
Chops9 said:
Just landed a few days ago. All seems to be OK, I'm looking to get into the mines as a civil/project engineer with 5 year exp, only really started applying the last few weeks. I havent got too much of a response yet. Gonna be interesting to see how I get on with all the news. I'm not sure what's the story with the IT side of things.
Its worth come just to hear all the V8's!!
By the way anyone know of companies hiring?
Find out the agencies that hire for them rather than going direct. Then schmooze/bribe/charm who ever you can at the agency to make sure you're top of the list when a new job comes in. By the time the job hits the websites it is already too late. Its worth come just to hear all the V8's!!
By the way anyone know of companies hiring?
Go to seek.com.au and do some searching to find what agency belongs with the different companies you want to work for. Call up and ask who looks after the Penski File account or the sector you want to aim for. Keep calling until you speak to them and ask if you can come in to meet them rather than saying "got any jobs?" Recruiters have a quota of face time with noobs a week so they will say yes.
Good luck!
WA= Wait Awhile!!
Anyone see the news about FMG yesterday? http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-business/fmg-...
Basically they have just let a few more go and this news doesn't make you think they'll be hiring soon. This means you might see a number of available experienced workers on the market. I don't doubt theyll be snapped up but it means if you want a mine gig you best get busy and very quickly to beat the rush.
Basically they have just let a few more go and this news doesn't make you think they'll be hiring soon. This means you might see a number of available experienced workers on the market. I don't doubt theyll be snapped up but it means if you want a mine gig you best get busy and very quickly to beat the rush.
dmulally said:
Bibbs said:
I've a mate wanting to come to Oz, from NZ, who's studied a bit of Cisco. What location are they in?
Sorry Bibbs. I should have said.I'm in Sydney. I can't promise anything but I can ask. First thing they will say is "what do they have?" so if I have a CV on hand I can ram it down their cold nerdy throats.
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