Help needed - Ferrari 360
Help needed - Ferrari 360
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porschedriver

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50 posts

236 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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I'm looking to spend a day cleaning / polishing / waxing a black 360 at the weekend. Can anyone recomend the processes I should go through to get to a deep, glass like shine all over? Many thanks.

morebeanz

3,283 posts

252 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
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There are a load of things you could do, but I take it that you're not a regular detailer?

Simple stages would be:

Rinse the car of any large dirt particles etc.
Wash with an appropriate car shampoo (I like Zymol) using a mitt if possible, and two buckets (one for the shampoo and one to clean the mitt before dipping again).
Dry the car - some recommend using a soft towel rather than a chamois, but I use a chamois.
Using Quick Detailer as a lube, clay the car - ensure the clay is lubed at all times, and wipe off the excess from the car with a micro-fibre cloth.
Polish the car with a "filling" polish such as P21S Paint Cleaner - this will remove some very light swirl marks and fill the rest.
Wax with your chosen product (I'm a P21 Carnauba wax fan)
If you really want to go super deep shine, then you could re-wax, or use a finisher.

If you drop any cloth/pad/mitt on the ground at any time, do not re-use it, replace it. You will end up scratching the car otherwise!

By the way, I have no professional involvement - I am just a bit of an addict!

porschedriver

Original Poster:

50 posts

236 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
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I'm no regular at this, I was well known amongst friends for having the dirtiest Porsche in the car park but I just can't do it to something as beautiful as a 360.

Thanks for the advice, really appreiciated. would you recommend a high pressure jet for the rinse and shampoo?

morebeanz

3,283 posts

252 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
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I wouldn't use a high pressure jet for anything other than wheel arches and chassis parts, personally.

That said, I would think that most problems of damaging paintwork are due to holding the jet too close and generally being over-zealous!

If you really want to "care" for the paintwork though, I would tend to avoid them.

Ooooh, and don't forget some pics once you're done!

Marki

15,763 posts

286 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
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Stop being such a Nancy boy and stick it through the car wash

elitedetailer

301 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
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Or alternatively give me a call.

David H

809 posts

257 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
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Aaron have a read of this guide:
www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/guides_wash.html

porschedriver

Original Poster:

50 posts

236 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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David H said:
Aaron have a read of this guide:
www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/guides_wash.html


David, your guide is an absolute gem. thanks.

porschedriver

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50 posts

236 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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elitedetailer said:
Or alternatively give me a call.


looking forward to getting my hands dirty here. If it doesn't work out i'll mail you....cheers.

porschedriver

Original Poster:

50 posts

236 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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morebeanz said:
I wouldn't use a high pressure jet for anything other than wheel arches and chassis parts, personally.

That said, I would think that most problems of damaging paintwork are due to holding the jet too close and generally being over-zealous!

If you really want to "care" for the paintwork though, I would tend to avoid them.

Ooooh, and don't forget some pics once you're done!


Cheers for the assistance. I'll do my best and get some photos sorted. Apologies in advance but i'm a begineer at this! (promise not to use the jet on anything but the wheels)

morebeanz

3,283 posts

252 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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No probs! I've got really in to this detailing lark, but of course the rest of the family think I'm bonkers!

If you fancy understanding some more about what each of the products or processes do, try www.detailingworld.co.uk - there are lots of guides and tips on the theory and practice of getting the best out of your cleaning. It gets pretty involved, but it's all good stuff.

Have fun!

porschedriver

Original Poster:

50 posts

236 months

Saturday 10th June 2006
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Thanks again for all of the information, followed it completly. The job went well and I've got the photos to prove but how do I post them on pistonheads!?!??

I've got a chap coming to Zymol the car tomorrow before Le Mans so I can compare the difference and of course copy his methods/products. I'll let you know how it compares.

MeLLoN Stu

21,410 posts

231 months

Friday 16th June 2006
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to host a picture i just use www.photobucket.com, upload your photos there and link them in using the tags which you'll find in the formatting codes to the left of your text when you type a reply.

i'm no detailing fanatic, or expert, but i don't rate zymol shampoo that highly, much prefer meguiars and poorboys products.

for future reference i'd start by giving the car a good rinse, then meguiars shampoo.
then get the claybar out and pull any further contaminants ( you'll be amazed how many remain embedded when you see the colour of the clay on anything but the newest paintwork), i use pinnacle poly clay, and meguiars Quick Detailer as a lube for it. works a treat, found i get much better results than with the zymol equivelent. then i give it another wash just to pull surface contaminants claying has pulled out away.
after that i usually get polishing, i use poorboys SSR 2 first, and i find a quick going over with meguiars deep crystal finished that stage off a treat, should have an amazingly glossy shine by now. then its just a case of sealing it all up, for which i firstly use a layer of meguiars stage 3 carnuba wax and a finishing layer of natty's paste wax.
its a hell of a lot of work, but doing it this way makes it amazingly easy to clean in the future, and also pulls out a lot of tiny surface scratches and swirls.

personally i'd NEVER use a car wash, they're awful and ruin paint.

sam gamgee

966 posts

269 months

Friday 16th June 2006
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All well covered! And goodly. Would also recommend Mothers Reflections Top Coat, as finisher. Trust me, does the job....Other products I now use are P21swax, Mothers filler type product (ordered by mistake-tis good, tho)and various Meguiars stuff on occasion. Car rarely gets washed; use quick detailer if it doesnt get too dirty....

Dave.

Oh, and take your time......

MeLLoN Stu

21,410 posts

231 months

Friday 16th June 2006
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yeah the mothers range is also very good

forgot to mention ( i think), don't go and wax the whole car then take the whole lot off, do it in small patches, say 3x3. and don't leave it on too long