White paint metalic
Discussion
I wanted to get some opinion and thoughts.
Have a non metalic classic car and want to paint the whole car in metalic. I thought of recolouring it to different colour however that means removing all door panel and … so sticking with same paint
Where could I see a chart of all white colours on market for different cars so can select a code to paint car with and know in future can give out that code for new paint
Is white colours difficult to paint/ will show up any colour mismatch?
For instance I know silver colours can be difficult to match if you are not paining all car where as black not easy to detect
Is white the same?
Have a non metalic classic car and want to paint the whole car in metalic. I thought of recolouring it to different colour however that means removing all door panel and … so sticking with same paint
Where could I see a chart of all white colours on market for different cars so can select a code to paint car with and know in future can give out that code for new paint
Is white colours difficult to paint/ will show up any colour mismatch?
For instance I know silver colours can be difficult to match if you are not paining all car where as black not easy to detect
Is white the same?
Yep white is one of the most difficult colours to match, especially the metallic and pearl whites, of course if you are respraying
the whole car it wouldn't matter, if you are blending it in to other areas then it's going to be a bit more difficult.
Why not do it right and strip the lot down? Recent Hondas have some lovely pearl white shades.
the whole car it wouldn't matter, if you are blending it in to other areas then it's going to be a bit more difficult.
Why not do it right and strip the lot down? Recent Hondas have some lovely pearl white shades.
Master Of Puppets said:
Yep white is one of the most difficult colours to match, especially the metallic and pearl whites, of course if you are respraying
the whole car it wouldn't matter, if you are blending it in to other areas then it's going to be a bit more difficult.
Why not do it right and strip the lot down? Recent Hondas have some lovely pearl white shades.
Do you mean back to bear metal and repaint? the whole car it wouldn't matter, if you are blending it in to other areas then it's going to be a bit more difficult.
Why not do it right and strip the lot down? Recent Hondas have some lovely pearl white shades.
Re white, there are many variation such as pure white, pearl white, brialliant white … trying to see difference on phone or screen very difficult so apart from going to store to see the samples, any other thoughts?
As I understand white pearl has two part, base white and pearl/ laquer/ metalic is second part so one doesn’t need to laquer on top of the 2nd part
Our S3 is metallic white. If you look REALLY hard at a certain angle, in particular lighting conditions you may be able tell 
Vast majority of people would have no idea. I blame Mrs G968CS as she said we must spec it in white (it's her car really). I didn't really want a white car so I thought at least I can choose the metallic one. Waste of money.
Vast majority of people would have no idea. I blame Mrs G968CS as she said we must spec it in white (it's her car really). I didn't really want a white car so I thought at least I can choose the metallic one. Waste of money.You are correct about the issues of viewing colours on screen.
You will have to go 'to the store' as you put it to look at colour swatches of the various car makers to get a better idea of how a colour will actually look or decide what colour you want then find which dealer has one in stock in that colour
When repairing a car that has been factory painted in one of the white 'effects' (pearl, metallic, xirillic etc) paints you will have the same match issues as any other colour - including black which can be a complete PITA.
A complete respray will at least mean that you can order enough paint in your eventual colour of choice so the whole car looks OK.
Repairs will be easier as you know which brand of paint & which formulation was used by your paint supplier.
As you are looking for an 'effects' paint that will usually be in either a 2 coat clear over base - clear lacquer over the colour - or a 3 coat where the 1st will often be a 'solid' colour (no metallic/pearl etc) with a transparent coat over which contains the 'effects' and then a clear lacquer over the lot.
The latter can also be a complete PITA to repair.
In the days of solvent base coats & clearcoats it WAS sometimes a solid colour as the base coat then a small amount of 'effect' in the clearcoat, the clear being applied in several coats to give the depth. Rarely came across it - last I did was years ago & IIRC Lotus Chrome Yellow. Yellow basecoat then a few drops of metallic in the clearcost. Also a PITA.
You will have to go 'to the store' as you put it to look at colour swatches of the various car makers to get a better idea of how a colour will actually look or decide what colour you want then find which dealer has one in stock in that colour
When repairing a car that has been factory painted in one of the white 'effects' (pearl, metallic, xirillic etc) paints you will have the same match issues as any other colour - including black which can be a complete PITA.
A complete respray will at least mean that you can order enough paint in your eventual colour of choice so the whole car looks OK.
Repairs will be easier as you know which brand of paint & which formulation was used by your paint supplier.
As you are looking for an 'effects' paint that will usually be in either a 2 coat clear over base - clear lacquer over the colour - or a 3 coat where the 1st will often be a 'solid' colour (no metallic/pearl etc) with a transparent coat over which contains the 'effects' and then a clear lacquer over the lot.
The latter can also be a complete PITA to repair.
In the days of solvent base coats & clearcoats it WAS sometimes a solid colour as the base coat then a small amount of 'effect' in the clearcoat, the clear being applied in several coats to give the depth. Rarely came across it - last I did was years ago & IIRC Lotus Chrome Yellow. Yellow basecoat then a few drops of metallic in the clearcost. Also a PITA.
Edited by paintman on Tuesday 3rd December 17:06
Yeah like the look of it, looks better than peal white
From what I understand pearl is the metallic bits which other colours have?
Still little confuse on coat construction, is it base white plus pearl and then laquer so 3 layer plus primer if needed thus 4 layers ?
Or is pearl mixed with laquer?
From what I understand pearl is the metallic bits which other colours have?
Still little confuse on coat construction, is it base white plus pearl and then laquer so 3 layer plus primer if needed thus 4 layers ?
Or is pearl mixed with laquer?
I expect there will be a primer under the paint.
What & how many coats you will need to discuss with your chosen bodyshop.
Once you have chosen your colour you will know what format it takes & you can then find out how it is applied.
It will most likely either be:
The base coat which will be the colour plus whatever effects are in the formula. This will then have clear lacquer over the top.
or
A base coat which will likely be a solid colour (no effects). Then a transparent coat which will contain whatever effects are in the formula. Then a clear lacquer over the top to finish.
In both the above the clear lacquer will be exactly that, nothing added.
I suggest your next courses of action will be to decide what colour you want & then talk to the bodyshop you will be using.
What & how many coats you will need to discuss with your chosen bodyshop.
Once you have chosen your colour you will know what format it takes & you can then find out how it is applied.
It will most likely either be:
The base coat which will be the colour plus whatever effects are in the formula. This will then have clear lacquer over the top.
or
A base coat which will likely be a solid colour (no effects). Then a transparent coat which will contain whatever effects are in the formula. Then a clear lacquer over the top to finish.
In both the above the clear lacquer will be exactly that, nothing added.
I suggest your next courses of action will be to decide what colour you want & then talk to the bodyshop you will be using.
Can't think of any particular colour but generally new colours were easier where there aren't that many different shades.
That's because the manufacturer hasn't yet produced so many cars in that colour that they've needed to order further batches of paint.
Was a particular issue with Ford Panther Black & VW Black Magic as they were both very popular colours with huge numbers of formulae in each.
Again, generally silvers & pale metallics were the most likely to be problematic & most likely for the mismatch to be visible in natural daylight.
That's because the manufacturer hasn't yet produced so many cars in that colour that they've needed to order further batches of paint.
Was a particular issue with Ford Panther Black & VW Black Magic as they were both very popular colours with huge numbers of formulae in each.
Again, generally silvers & pale metallics were the most likely to be problematic & most likely for the mismatch to be visible in natural daylight.
Edited by paintman on Saturday 7th December 12:57
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