Ceramic Coating

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RZ1

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213 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Has anyone applied a ceramic coating DIY, i want to do my car but not sure which coating to get.

I want something that is easy to use and includes the applicators etc, also want a ceramic coating not the hybrid ceramic spray as i understand they are more of a top up.

What do people recommend that's easy to use and can be applied outside

dibblecorse

6,951 posts

199 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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There are lots of good options but only really worth it if you are also planning on doing a full paint correction to remove swirls and marks on the paint, otherwise you are just sealing those in.

RZ1

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213 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Yup planning on using a clay bar and also my DA to remove the swirl marks

Rawhide

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220 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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I expect you will get a million answers on this. I did some research for a planned new car (GR Yaris) and arrived at CQUARTZ UK 3.0 as it's designed for UK conditions, and seemed a good balance of ease of use, durability etc.

I've only tested it on a bonnet so far and it seems to have been fairly effective but the polishing was most of the reason for the improvement on my black car.

However I applied 2 coats and really want to apply a third. I have a good well lit garage though so am not subject to the UK weather. Something to consider.

RZ1

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Yup my concern is I will be applying it outdoors so want something that’s convenient to be applied outdoors.

I just like the idea of applying something that helps keep the car cleaner.

Andy665

3,803 posts

235 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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RZ1 said:
Has anyone applied a ceramic coating DIY, i want to do my car but not sure which coating to get.

I want something that is easy to use and includes the applicators etc, also want a ceramic coating not the hybrid ceramic spray as i understand they are more of a top up.

What do people recommend that's easy to use and can be applied outside
Ask a hundred people this question and you will get a hundred responses.

I have used waxes and sealants for many years with differing results, some professionally applied and some done by myself.

Unless the instructions specifically recommend multiple layers then you are simply going to waste product by adding more layers, I generally top a sealant with a wax, no real need to, does not add more protection but just because I like the process and I believe that as good as ceramic sealants are, a good wax will always add a little something to the finish

Recently tried a Diamond Protech (Body 36) kit, applied to an 18 year old Volvo V70 and V8 Vantage.

After full machine polishing polishing obviously I found application and removal incredibly straightforward, no need for special precautions in terms of cure times / temps etc. Water behaviour on both cars is very good and will be using remainder of kit on my soon to be delivered a110 - I am very impressed with it

Edited by Andy665 on Tuesday 15th August 11:24

Funkstar De Luxe

793 posts

190 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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RZ1 said:
Yup my concern is I will be applying it outdoors so want something that’s convenient to be applied outdoors.

I just like the idea of applying something that helps keep the car cleaner.
I'd say that it's a hard requirement to apply them in doors (so they don't pick up contamination) and allow them to sit and dry for a few days.

Andy665

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Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Funkstar De Luxe said:
I'd say that it's a hard requirement to apply them in doors (so they don't pick up contamination) and allow them to sit and dry for a few days.
Absolutely not in most cases nowadays although there are still some that do - usually products that need professional application.

Many require a few hours but the most recent stuff is much quicker to cure - Diamond Ptotech Body 36 just needs an hour

Edited by Andy665 on Tuesday 15th August 13:04

airsafari87

2,850 posts

189 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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I used to detail cars professionally for a living some years ago, but got out of it just before ceramic coatings were starting to make an appearance.

A good pal of mine still has his own 10 year + detailing business and he recommended my some Gyeon Q2 CanCoat Evo when I wanted an easy to use, home applied coating for my car last year.

You don’t HAVE to machine polish your car prior to application, I wasn’t concerned about correcting the paintwork on mine, I just wanted a coating on the paint and glass to protect it through the winter.

The only process I did was give it a good wash, a thorough wipe down with their paintwork prep solution, then applied the coating itself. All done on my drive in a couple of hours.

That was back in late September last year, and I was massively surprised to see some beading and sheeting when I washed the car at the weekend.


RZ1

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Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Andy665 said:
Absolutely not in most cases nowadays although there are still some that do - usually products that need professional application.

Many require a few hours but the most recent stuff is much quicker to cure - Diamond Ptotech Body 36 just needs an hour

Edited by Andy665 on Tuesday 15th August 13:04
I like the idea of something that is cured in an hour, will look into this

Andyuk911

1,979 posts

216 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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I have not read the complete thread.

the most important part is cleaning ... use panel prep GTECH etc

Have a watch of the series ...

https://youtu.be/LaKx3T_Surw?t=692

HTH

Funkstar De Luxe

793 posts

190 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Andy665 said:
Absolutely not in most cases nowadays although there are still some that do - usually products that need professional application.

Many require a few hours but the most recent stuff is much quicker to cure - Diamond Ptotech Body 36 just needs an hour

Edited by Andy665 on Tuesday 15th August 13:04
One of the first instructions for Diamond Ptotech Body 36 is to apply in an enclosed area. It also sounds like a bunch of bullst - "nano diamond".


You need to apply and cure in an enclosed area, otherwise you are simply welding contaminants to your paint. Can can really, really fk up your paint by doing it out doors.

Funkstar De Luxe

793 posts

190 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Funkstar De Luxe said:
One of the first instructions for Diamond Ptotech Body 36 is to apply in an enclosed area. It also sounds like a bunch of bullst - "nano diamond".


You need to apply and cure in an enclosed area, otherwise you are simply welding contaminants to your paint.

Belle427

9,738 posts

240 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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There are so many good spray on wipe off type products available these days that you can get 6 months from and dont need any cure time, maybe they make more sense?

Edited by Belle427 on Tuesday 15th August 20:13

RZ1

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My understanding was that the spray on ones are tops ups and you need to have a ceramic base coat for them first. Maybe I’ve misunderstood

Paul_M3

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192 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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I’ve used Gyeon Q2 One Evo on both of my cars.

Both of which were done outdoors, and the instructions include a section on outdoor application

https://gyeonquartz.uk/product/one-evo/


Belle427

9,738 posts

240 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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RZ1 said:
My understanding was that the spray on ones are tops ups and you need to have a ceramic base coat for them first. Maybe I’ve misunderstood
Some are both toppers and standalone.
You wont go far wrong with gyeon products but the better ones do need curing time.
Fusso coat wax is said to be durable for up to 12 months if you wanted something easy to use.

somouk

1,425 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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Infinity Wax do a range of home apply ceramics that get good reviews. Might be worth a look.