Wash buckets stuck together - how to separate?

Wash buckets stuck together - how to separate?

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595Heaven

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2,597 posts

85 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Aarrgghh!

My two wash buckets, which are different makes, have been stacked together in the garage for several weeks, and I cannot get them apart. I've always stored them like this, so not sure why they've stuck solid - perhaps I've always stacked them the other way round before. YouTube suggests a vaccum forms iand to use an air compressor (which I don't have) to force air into the lower bucket, but they are of a different design to mine, and the bottom rim of the top bucket (which is the bit that is stuck), is about 8" below the gap I have to work with!

It's pretty much impossible to grip the bottom bucket firmly enough with my feet to allow me to give the top bucket a really good yank. I've tried levering the top one out with two screwdrivers, but they are just going to pierce the inner bucket's sides. I've tried drifting the top one out, but ended up taking a chunk out of the rim. I've sprayed PlusGas into the gap, but it hasn't helped!

If I was to drill a hole in the lower bucket to either release the vacuum or to push the top bucket out, is there a way of repairing it? I'm in danger of breaking both buckets if I'm not careful.

It's not the world's biggest problem, and I may just have to admit defeat and cut the bottom off the lower bucket, but does anyone have any ideas?

Turn7

24,144 posts

228 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Can you get the hose pipe to force water into the bottom bucket ? May push the top one out.

Big_Dog

982 posts

192 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Can you get water into the bottom bucket then leave them somewhere warm for a while. Or if not a hairdryer on the bottom bucket the air expansion should push them apart.

Cliftonite

8,491 posts

145 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Ice-cold water inside the inner bucket. Outer bucket heated (to expand and loosen it) by placing them both in near-boiling water in sink.




loskie

5,655 posts

127 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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pour a kettle of boiling water around the join and the base hoping the air inside will heat up

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

214 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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This could turn into a legendary thread, with the world's greatest engineering minds devoting hours to solving this problem, for the price of a plastic bucket.

I would leave it exactly as it is and know that you've got a super strong double walled wash bucket, that will keep your hot water hot for longer and won't shatter the inner bucket when you drop it. And just buy a new bucket when you're next at the shops.

If you really need two buckets right now, have you tried immersing both in hot water? You just need the air trapped between them to increase in pressure.

Monkeylegend

27,195 posts

238 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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595Heaven said:
Aarrgghh!



If I was to drill a hole in the lower bucket to either release the vacuum or to push the top bucket out, is there a way of repairing it?
With a straw dear Heaven.

crossle

1,520 posts

258 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Try drilling a hole through the bottom of the outer bucket and then poke a screwdriver though the hole to push the inner bucket out. Don't use a bradawl or you might make a hole in the inner bucket.

Refer to the link for instruction around any outer bucket issues:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD-ffhvefsw

Andy 308GTB

2,961 posts

228 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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There is actually a multitude of YouTube videos available to help you.

This could be the start of a new game/thread, 'YouTube - things it cannot fix'

595Heaven

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2,597 posts

85 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Monkeylegend said:
With a straw dear Heaven.
I like what you did there wink

So

27,660 posts

229 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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595Heaven said:
Aarrgghh!

My two wash buckets, which are different makes, have been stacked together in the garage for several weeks, and I cannot get them apart. I've always stored them like this, so not sure why they've stuck solid - perhaps I've always stacked them the other way round before. YouTube suggests a vaccum forms iand to use an air compressor (which I don't have) to force air into the lower bucket, but they are of a different design to mine, and the bottom rim of the top bucket (which is the bit that is stuck), is about 8" below the gap I have to work with!

It's pretty much impossible to grip the bottom bucket firmly enough with my feet to allow me to give the top bucket a really good yank. I've tried levering the top one out with two screwdrivers, but they are just going to pierce the inner bucket's sides. I've tried drifting the top one out, but ended up taking a chunk out of the rim. I've sprayed PlusGas into the gap, but it hasn't helped!

If I was to drill a hole in the lower bucket to either release the vacuum or to push the top bucket out, is there a way of repairing it? I'm in danger of breaking both buckets if I'm not careful.

It's not the world's biggest problem, and I may just have to admit defeat and cut the bottom off the lower bucket, but does anyone have any ideas?
1. Lay them on their side and kneel on them so that the plastic flexes. Hopefully they will have different degrees of flexion and they'll separate.

2. Put on some big boots and give them a kick. It's a less refined version of 1. but it has the added benefit of allowing you to vent your anger.


595Heaven

Original Poster:

2,597 posts

85 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Andy 308GTB said:
There is actually a multitude of YouTube videos available to help you.

This could be the start of a new game/thread, 'YouTube - things it cannot help you with'
I watched several, but the bucket shapes don’t match, so the methods they use don’t help!


Monkeylegend

27,195 posts

238 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Or as somebody suggested, leave them and you will have a double glazed bucket which will keep your water warmer for longer.

You can then purchase two more and jam them together if you want to use the two bucket method of car washing.

595Heaven

Original Poster:

2,597 posts

85 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Maybe a picture will help...



Imagine it turned 90 degrees clockwise and that’s how it actually looks (why can’t this be fixed?!)

You can see how far down the inner bucket is, and the lack of anywhere to easily lever the two apart...

The red mark is to show any movement between the two buckets.

Going to try cold water in the bucket, then pour hot water around the outer one

595Heaven

Original Poster:

2,597 posts

85 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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MiseryStreak said:
This could turn into a legendary thread, with the world's greatest engineering minds devoting hours to solving this problem, for the price of a plastic bucket.

I would leave it exactly as it is and know that you've got a super strong double walled wash bucket, that will keep your hot water hot for longer and won't shatter the inner bucket when you drop it. And just buy a new bucket when you're next at the shops.

If you really need two buckets right now, have you tried immersing both in hot water? You just need the air trapped between them to increase in pressure.
Where's the fun in that wink This problem must be solved!

The other issue is that in the bottom bucket is my grit guard and a couple of cleaning brushes I was wanting to use today...

So said:
1. Lay them on their side and kneel on them so that the plastic flexes. Hopefully they will have different degrees of flexion and they'll separate.

2. Put on some big boots and give them a kick. It's a less refined version of 1. but it has the added benefit of allowing you to vent your anger.
Tried #1 without success and trying to avoid #2

AdamIndy

1,661 posts

111 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Sit down somewhere, both feet on the lip of the bottom bucket, yank the top one out. Wear a helmet just in case!biggrin

595Heaven

Original Poster:

2,597 posts

85 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Cold water in the inner bucket and boiling water around the outer one didn't work...

Re-boiling the kettle for round 2

595Heaven

Original Poster:

2,597 posts

85 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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loskie said:
pour a kettle of boiling water around the join and the base hoping the air inside will heat up
And they're free! Loskie - I owe you a beer

One issue is that the kitchen now stinks of PlusGas as I'd sprayed that in the gap earlier and the water rinsed it out into the sink and beyond. Mrs 595 is due back imminently... eek

motco

16,226 posts

253 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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An airline nozzle directed down the gap. Okay it's a small gap but air gets through...

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

254 months

Sunday 3rd May 2020
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Hold the bottom one tight with your feet. Grasp the upper one Tight, , and rotate it one way. Keep rotating it and try to screw it out With some upwards pressure.

Guaranteed to work.

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Bugger just saw that you already done it.


Well, force them back together again. Make sure they are really tight. And try my method.