bushing, baljoints and droplinks.. how to check?

bushing, baljoints and droplinks.. how to check?

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Renn Sport

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2,761 posts

224 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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I have knocking clunking noise coming from the driver side of my BMW 2002 E39. It happens a low speeds and when going over bumps and stuff. Its getting a little louder then it was before. I was thinking it was a good idea to check the suspension parts for wear over the weekend.

I want to check the front ball joints, bushings and any droplinks for wear… So with the car jacked up and everything in view how do I check these components for wear or play?


Does anyone have a link to a site that may cover this?

bazking69

8,620 posts

205 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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Save your time. If you have to ask you're better letting a garage have a look.
That's not me being rude btw, but unless they really are shagged, suspension components show virtually no sign of play to the naked eye/hand, especially the untrained one. If you are expecting something to be blatently obvious when you look I suspect you will be disappointed.

Renn Sport

Original Poster:

2,761 posts

224 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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Sorry mate.. that’s a crap answer. Why bother to respond? The whole point of this section is to get helpful advice.

I am fairly mechanically handy cars bikes and most stuff. I have worked on all my cars and bikes. All I am asking for is point in the right direction. Mechanics isn't flipping rocket science. Its not a F1 car, just a E39. Unless I need specialised tools and a lift and a flex capacitor...

Does anyone have a tip or two for me?

road_rager

1,091 posts

214 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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I've seen my garage check for such things with a crow bar... It's also easier if the car is not jacked up, and on a ramp...
HTH

Busa_Rush

6,930 posts

266 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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As above, you need to use something pretty long to lever things apart/stress them . . . the further apart they go the more worn they are, basically, but you need to know how much they are supposed to move in the first place as the whole point of a bush/track rod end etc is that they do move slightly.

Sometimes you can see a bush has broken but you'd have more than a slight knocking by the time it's that bad.

Best option is to take it to a specialist garage as even some general purpose garages won't find anything wrong with just a slight knock. This is what I do . . . even though I know roughly what to look for it would take me an hour or so at least to look for what they can tell me in 10 mins and if a suspension part needs changing it's much easier for a properly equipped garage to do it . . . suspension at home diy is not funny or even vaugly amusing, pita and always difficult.

Renn Sport

Original Poster:

2,761 posts

224 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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Many thanks and very helpful gents... I have friendly tyre fitting place who will let me use their lift for a quick check over.
I'll compare sides.

I have been steadily losing trust in the garages I have visited and am no way inclined to go to the stealers.

smile


eddie1980

419 posts

203 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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I can see why you would want to avoid the Stealer's with "a knocking that appears to be getting louder" with a fault like that before you know it they have sold all your organs on the black market and fixed a new car to your wing mirror.

mr_fibuli

1,109 posts

210 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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When I've had knackered drop links and track rod ends, its always been really obvious just by taking the wheel off and giving them a tug by hand. As has been said, for larger wishbone bushes you might need to use a pry bar to check for play.

oakdale

1,953 posts

217 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Most likely to be the anti roll bar drop link, common problem on these.
The trouble is, you need to check them by moving the suspension up and down with the car on its wheels (on a platform lift).
They're as cheap as chips from a motor factor, so it may be easier just to replace it (or both of them).

Renn Sport

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2,761 posts

224 months

Monday 24th August 2009
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Many thanks.. I was unable to get along to the garage but a quick un-scientific test of bouncing up and down on the front slam panel with bonnet open reavealed the slight knock from the drivers side.

I'll have further look and replace both sides for peace of mind.

cheers

chard

28,072 posts

198 months

Monday 24th August 2009
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How long before the MOT. Whenever I have mine done they seem to find stuff for me to do!!

Renn Sport

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2,761 posts

224 months

Tuesday 25th August 2009
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Yeah good point but that just tends to annoy me. I hate doing things under pressure.

My Mot is 9 months away. Need to sort it before winter I think. I like the car to drive nice with no noise.


premmington

8 posts

189 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
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Its easier with a two post ramp and a 30inch prybar.

But it is possible to do it on the floor. Take both wheels off...

Compare one side to the other (I've been in the trade for 25years and I still do it)

Look at the drop links first, they are the normal and cheepest failure.

Madmotor

1 posts

60 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Take a lever bar and move the connections as much as can. No more than 1.8mm movement out. Then take large waterpump pliers and squees them in and relax them out. Car musnt be jacked up but tyres touchin the ground. Its easiest on a lift that drives onto.

Mr MXT

7,748 posts

298 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Madmotor said:
Take a lever bar and move the connections as much as can. No more than 1.8mm movement out. Then take large waterpump pliers and squees them in and relax them out. Car musnt be jacked up but tyres touchin the ground. Its easiest on a lift that drives onto.
He’s probably sorted it after 11 years.