Tyre repair

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PositronicRay

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28,001 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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Odd one this, newish set of continentals (less than 1k miles) all holding pressure okay on Mrs Rays car.

Went for MOT, advisory 'nail in tyre' that's annoying says I holding pressure ok.

Popped back in when they had a slot, its a small self tapper or maybe wood screw centre tread, doesn't go all the way through. He says cant be repaired because its gone in at an angle, gives it a tug, maybe 45 degrees, not sure how long 6-8 mm ish at a guess, not penetrated through, not leaking. He tells me he can't just pull it out, water will get in and corrode the cords, can't plug it because it's at an angle, can't leave it because it'll work its way in and penetrate the carcass.

Only alternative is a new tyre (£135)

Not sure about this explanation, anyone else in the know?




ssray

1,192 posts

239 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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Get a tyre plug, clean the hole, use the supplied cement, put as much of the tyre plug in as you can, leave until set and cut the excess off

Lincsls1

3,656 posts

154 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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Perhaps go else where for a 2nd opinion (without telling them about the first).
Sounds daft to me.

PositronicRay

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28,001 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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ssray said:
Get a tyre plug, clean the hole, use the supplied cement, put as much of the tyre plug in as you can, leave until set and cut the excess off
My thoughts too, one of these. https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/benson-car-tyre-rep...

I wonder why the tyre place wouldn't repair? I've never has problems with them before, but not sure I like this guys attitude.

Far Cough

2,429 posts

182 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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PositronicRay said:
Odd one this, newish set of continentals (less than 1k miles) all holding pressure okay on Mrs Rays car.

Went for MOT, advisory 'nail in tyre' that's annoying says I holding pressure ok.

Popped back in when they had a slot, its a small self tapper or maybe wood screw centre tread, doesn't go all the way through. He says cant be repaired because its gone in at an angle, gives it a tug, maybe 45 degrees, not sure how long 6-8 mm ish at a guess, not penetrated through, not leaking. He tells me he can't just pull it out, water will get in and corrode the cords, can't plug it because it's at an angle, can't leave it because it'll work its way in and penetrate the carcass.

Only alternative is a new tyre (£135)

Not sure about this explanation, anyone else in the know?
Deffo dont leave it in. If it is holding pressure then there is no puncture. Unscrew , throw away and move on with life. Belt and braces , you could gum up the hole by inserting the nozzle of super glue in as far as possible and backfill the hole.

HustleRussell

25,544 posts

174 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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I would just take the screw out, have a look at how long it is, and make a reckoning on whether it's likely to have damaged the tyre structurally. I doubt it's made it into any steel cord, not in the centre of the tyre. The outer plies of the tyre structure are made of polymer materials.

I suppose if I wanted to do something about it, but not buy a new tyre, I'd consider putting a drill through it and getting it repaired conventionally!

PositronicRay

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28,001 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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HustleRussell said:
I would just take the screw out, have a look at how long it is, and make a reckoning on whether it's likely to have damaged the tyre structurally. I doubt it's made it into any steel cord, not in the centre of the tyre. The outer plies of the tyre structure are made of polymer materials.

I suppose if I wanted to do something about it, but not buy a new tyre, I'd consider putting a drill through it and getting it repaired conventionally!
Yes, sounds sensible.

stevemcs

9,402 posts

107 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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You would need to take the tyre off to see how its gone in, Providing its gone through even at an angle it should be repairable. Get some soapy water, spray it around the screw and see if it bubbles.

PositronicRay

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28,001 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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stevemcs said:
You would need to take the tyre off to see how its gone in, Providing its gone through even at an angle it should be repairable. Get some soapy water, spray it around the screw and see if it bubbles.
The guy in the tyre place took the tyre off, no penetration, no leak, no fix and no charge.
Odd.

CoolHands

20,661 posts

209 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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Just pull it out, chuck the screw on the road and forget about it thumbup

E-bmw

10,949 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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Far Cough said:
PositronicRay said:
Odd one this, newish set of continentals (less than 1k miles) all holding pressure okay on Mrs Rays car.

Went for MOT, advisory 'nail in tyre' that's annoying says I holding pressure ok.

Popped back in when they had a slot, its a small self tapper or maybe wood screw centre tread, doesn't go all the way through. He says cant be repaired because its gone in at an angle, gives it a tug, maybe 45 degrees, not sure how long 6-8 mm ish at a guess, not penetrated through, not leaking. He tells me he can't just pull it out, water will get in and corrode the cords, can't plug it because it's at an angle, can't leave it because it'll work its way in and penetrate the carcass.

Only alternative is a new tyre (£135)

Not sure about this explanation, anyone else in the know?
Deffo dont leave it in. If it is holding pressure then there is no puncture. Unscrew , throw away and move on with life. Belt and braces , you could gum up the hole by inserting the nozzle of super glue in as far as possible and backfill the hole.
100% do NOT follow this advice!

Just because it is holding pressure does not mean that it doesn't go all the way through, it could equally mean that the screw is filling the hole.

However that doesn't mean that it is un-repairable.

It MIGHT not go all the way through but even if it does, the tyre place is wrong, a repair can be carried out at an angle.

As others have said take it to a proper tyre place that actually does repairs & if (as you said in your original post) it is in the centre portion of the tyre then 100%it is repairable.

PositronicRay

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28,001 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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E-bmw said:
Far Cough said:
PositronicRay said:
Odd one this, newish set of continentals (less than 1k miles) all holding pressure okay on Mrs Rays car.

Went for MOT, advisory 'nail in tyre' that's annoying says I holding pressure ok.

Popped back in when they had a slot, its a small self tapper or maybe wood screw centre tread, doesn't go all the way through. He says cant be repaired because its gone in at an angle, gives it a tug, maybe 45 degrees, not sure how long 6-8 mm ish at a guess, not penetrated through, not leaking. He tells me he can't just pull it out, water will get in and corrode the cords, can't plug it because it's at an angle, can't leave it because it'll work its way in and penetrate the carcass.

Only alternative is a new tyre (£135)

Not sure about this explanation, anyone else in the know?
Deffo dont leave it in. If it is holding pressure then there is no puncture. Unscrew , throw away and move on with life. Belt and braces , you could gum up the hole by inserting the nozzle of super glue in as far as possible and backfill the hole.
100% do NOT follow this advice!

Just because it is holding pressure does not mean that it doesn't go all the way through, it could equally mean that the screw is filling the hole.

However that doesn't mean that it is un-repairable.

It MIGHT not go all the way through but even if it does, the tyre place is wrong, a repair can be carried out at an angle.

As others have said take it to a proper tyre place that actually does repairs & if (as you said in your original post) it is in the centre portion of the tyre then 100%it is repairable.
It doesn't go through, I've seen inside the tyre. It is a proper place (Protyre)
Always been decent, no idea why they wouldn't repair it.

Lincsls1

3,656 posts

154 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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PositronicRay said:
It doesn't go through, I've seen inside the tyre. It is a proper place (Protyre)
Always been decent, no idea why they wouldn't repair it.
They might simply have some sort of oddball policy he has to follow.
Just go elsewhere.

E-bmw

10,949 posts

166 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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PositronicRay said:
E-bmw said:
Far Cough said:
PositronicRay said:
Odd one this, newish set of continentals (less than 1k miles) all holding pressure okay on Mrs Rays car.

Went for MOT, advisory 'nail in tyre' that's annoying says I holding pressure ok.

Popped back in when they had a slot, its a small self tapper or maybe wood screw centre tread, doesn't go all the way through. He says cant be repaired because its gone in at an angle, gives it a tug, maybe 45 degrees, not sure how long 6-8 mm ish at a guess, not penetrated through, not leaking. He tells me he can't just pull it out, water will get in and corrode the cords, can't plug it because it's at an angle, can't leave it because it'll work its way in and penetrate the carcass.

Only alternative is a new tyre (£135)

Not sure about this explanation, anyone else in the know?
Deffo dont leave it in. If it is holding pressure then there is no puncture. Unscrew , throw away and move on with life. Belt and braces , you could gum up the hole by inserting the nozzle of super glue in as far as possible and backfill the hole.
100% do NOT follow this advice!

Just because it is holding pressure does not mean that it doesn't go all the way through, it could equally mean that the screw is filling the hole.

However that doesn't mean that it is un-repairable.

It MIGHT not go all the way through but even if it does, the tyre place is wrong, a repair can be carried out at an angle.

As others have said take it to a proper tyre place that actually does repairs & if (as you said in your original post) it is in the centre portion of the tyre then 100%it is repairable.
It doesn't go through, I've seen inside the tyre. It is a proper place (Protyre)
Always been decent, no idea why they wouldn't repair it.
In that case, just pull it out & forget it.

If you are being REALLY super safe, you could squeeze some rubber adhesive into the remaining hole when it comes out.

Far Cough

2,429 posts

182 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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E-bmw said:
In that case, just pull it out & forget it.

If you are being REALLY super safe, you could squeeze some rubber adhesive into the remaining hole when it comes out.
100% don't follow this advice but then agree with me once you have actually read the OP properly. You gotta love this place !!!

E-bmw

10,949 posts

166 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Far Cough said:
E-bmw said:
In that case, just pull it out & forget it.

If you are being REALLY super safe, you could squeeze some rubber adhesive into the remaining hole when it comes out.
100% don't follow this advice but then agree with me once you have actually read the OP properly. You gotta love this place !!!
I only agreed when the OP added that he has seen the inside of the tyre, so no it wasn't because I missed that bit, he didn't say he had seen the inside of the tyre originally. wink

HustleRussell

25,544 posts

174 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Far Cough said:
E-bmw said:
In that case, just pull it out & forget it.

If you are being REALLY super safe, you could squeeze some rubber adhesive into the remaining hole when it comes out.
100% don't follow this advice but then agree with me once you have actually read the OP properly. You gotta love this place !!!
Upvote!

E-bmw said:
I only agreed when the OP added that he has seen the inside of the tyre, so no it wasn't because I missed that bit, he didn't say he had seen the inside of the tyre originally. wink
OP says it doesn't go all the way through in the OP.

wyson

3,400 posts

118 months

PositronicRay

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28,001 posts

197 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Thank you all.

Different repairer unwound the screw and declared it okay.

stevieturbo

17,745 posts

261 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Let's face it, if it isn't going down, most people could drive tens of thousands of miles and not even know the screw is there, as the vast majority never check their tyres