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My Audi SQ 5 was mot’d earlier this year (local garage) part of which was replacing 2 tyres which on checking I noticed were manufactured in 2017.
The car is now back in to have new brakes and the other 2 tyres replaced so I’ve discussed the tyre age with the garage owner who was surprised as he hadn’t noticed the age on the first pair.
He has taken it up with his supplier only to be told that the latest 2 will be the same age so I’ll end up with a full set of tyres which are older than the car !
Clearly I could look elsewhere but would need to pointedly ask the age of tyres being supplied.
I’m not unduly concerned but I feel that some discount should be offered by the original supplier but isn’t being, and also I wonder if this scenario is common ?
The car is now back in to have new brakes and the other 2 tyres replaced so I’ve discussed the tyre age with the garage owner who was surprised as he hadn’t noticed the age on the first pair.
He has taken it up with his supplier only to be told that the latest 2 will be the same age so I’ll end up with a full set of tyres which are older than the car !
Clearly I could look elsewhere but would need to pointedly ask the age of tyres being supplied.
I’m not unduly concerned but I feel that some discount should be offered by the original supplier but isn’t being, and also I wonder if this scenario is common ?
5 year old tires are 2 years away from retirement regardless of legal tread depth. Unless they are cheap I wouldn't be putting them on.
I'm not familiar with MOT requirements but I purchased a 22 year old MX-5 earlier this year that had just passed an MOT with 12 year old tires on it that were all cracked. Do they even check that, or just check tread depth?
I'm not familiar with MOT requirements but I purchased a 22 year old MX-5 earlier this year that had just passed an MOT with 12 year old tires on it that were all cracked. Do they even check that, or just check tread depth?
TheLoraxxZeus said:
5 year old tires are 2 years away from retirement regardless of legal tread depth. Unless they are cheap I wouldn't be putting them on.
I'm not familiar with MOT requirements but I purchased a 22 year old MX-5 earlier this year that had just passed an MOT with 12 year old tires on it that were all cracked. Do they even check that, or just check tread depth?
"Tyre ageI'm not familiar with MOT requirements but I purchased a 22 year old MX-5 earlier this year that had just passed an MOT with 12 year old tires on it that were all cracked. Do they even check that, or just check tread depth?
The check of tyre age applies to all vehicles with more than 8 passenger seats, other than vehicles of historical interest."
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TheLoraxxZeus said:
5 year old tires are 2 years away from retirement regardless of legal tread depth. Unless they are cheap I wouldn't be putting them on.
I'm not familiar with MOT requirements but I purchased a 22 year old MX-5 earlier this year that had just passed an MOT with 12 year old tires on it that were all cracked. Do they even check that, or just check tread depth?
That's not even worthy of the description of "gibberish" I'm not familiar with MOT requirements but I purchased a 22 year old MX-5 earlier this year that had just passed an MOT with 12 year old tires on it that were all cracked. Do they even check that, or just check tread depth?
I won’t be keeping the car long enough to worry about the age of the tyres, but I purchased them thinking they were new (ish at least) only to find they’re actually 5 years old and older than the car.
You don’t expect to have to ask what age of tyre you’re buying (does anyone do that ?) - particularly when paying full price.
You don’t expect to have to ask what age of tyre you’re buying (does anyone do that ?) - particularly when paying full price.
sherman said:
What are the tyres. An odd size or pattern probably isnt produced that often.
Yeah. Seems very odd. I would be sceptical of tyres which where over 5 years old, certainly on a performance vehicle, and would not be impressed if I bought new ones that age and would avoid any more. Surely you can get a better price from National Tyres or one of the various online firms anyway.
That said, if stored in reasonably condition, and going to be consumed in around a year anyway, I wouldn't loose too much sleep.
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Edited by dhutch on Wednesday 14th December 11:37
Are you insisting on the audi AO stamped tyres ?
This system does more harm than good for exactly this sort of reason. A manufacturer switches tyre suppliers or for what ever reason those particular tyres are no longer made with the AO stamp, but some people still want so they nudge the price up and sell them slowly to some unspecting person who thinks they are paying a premium for tyres which are more suited to the car, when they are actually paying a premium for older 'rarer' tyres that are the same or worse than the newest ones.
This system does more harm than good for exactly this sort of reason. A manufacturer switches tyre suppliers or for what ever reason those particular tyres are no longer made with the AO stamp, but some people still want so they nudge the price up and sell them slowly to some unspecting person who thinks they are paying a premium for tyres which are more suited to the car, when they are actually paying a premium for older 'rarer' tyres that are the same or worse than the newest ones.
I had to buy a couple of cross ply tyres while touring in Germany last year in a 75 year old car. They were new but 6 years old. I got about40% off. I was delighted….I was so pleased to get them I would have paid full price happily. Still not cheap though! As an aside, it transpired that it wasn’t the old tyres that failed, but the tubes! The tubes that were sent with the tyres were brand new!
Also folks,Check the small print of your recovery insurance. Anything as a result of wheel or tyre failure is excluded (except recovery from the scene to a workshop 😱) and that includes moderns. Apparently in the past few years the non supply of spare wheels combined with very expensive tyre/wheel combinations has resulted in some very expensive claims, so check before you go!
Also don’t trust old tubes😀
Also folks,Check the small print of your recovery insurance. Anything as a result of wheel or tyre failure is excluded (except recovery from the scene to a workshop 😱) and that includes moderns. Apparently in the past few years the non supply of spare wheels combined with very expensive tyre/wheel combinations has resulted in some very expensive claims, so check before you go!
Also don’t trust old tubes😀
My son bought a cheap set of alloys as winter wheels last year. They came with 10 year old winter tyres still with plenty of tread. Used them last winter but put 4 new winter tyres on this year. Not happy running 10 year old tyres on a daily driver. New ones marked 2522 so not too long sitting on a shelf
If the tyres have been kept away from ultra-violet light (ie away from direct sunlight) they will have suffered very little degradation. I'd have no problem running them for another 5+ years, personally.
People on PH seem to worry about tyre age without really trying to understand the issues that actually arise from it and their causes. Even once fitted, tyres on a car which is primarily kept garaged will last a good couple of decades with no significant hardening or weakening of the compound.
People on PH seem to worry about tyre age without really trying to understand the issues that actually arise from it and their causes. Even once fitted, tyres on a car which is primarily kept garaged will last a good couple of decades with no significant hardening or weakening of the compound.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 14th December 10:16
kambites said:
If the tyres have been kept away from ultra-violet light (ie away from direct sunlight) they will have suffered very little degradation. I'd have no problem running them for another 5+ years, personally.
People on PH seem to worry about tyre age without really trying to understand the issues that actually arise from it and their causes.
In about 2002, I had a set of 6 year old (from factory) P6000s on my S1 elise. That car had sat in a garage most of its life until I bought it. The tyres were like concrete. On that basis I think there may be some mechanism for degradation that isn't solely UV related. Maybe some other process (heat|cold cycles or something like that?).People on PH seem to worry about tyre age without really trying to understand the issues that actually arise from it and their causes.
Those pirellis were the tyres on the car for 3 weeks of my ownership until I accidentally performed a 900º spin up the havant sliproad onto the Westbound A27 one morning. I was extremely lucky it stayed on the asphalt and hit nothing at all. There are a lot of trees there, a bridge, a small river...
I don't trust old tyres.
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