Any thoughts on these tyre cracks? Goodyear Asymmetric 3's

Any thoughts on these tyre cracks? Goodyear Asymmetric 3's

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BJPPJB

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49 posts

111 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Evening All,

Any thoughts on these cracks? They run the complete circumference of the tyre (they were fitted in June 2017) to the rear of my Passat. I've emailed Goodyear, but would appreciate some thoughts from the Pistonheads collective:

Date codes appear to be mid 2016 and early 2017. Both tyres fitted at the same time, and all in my ownership. Always run at 39PSI (as the car is never loaded other than the occasional holiday, where I pump them up to 42 or 44, can't remember off the top of my head)





julianm

1,664 posts

216 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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My wife's car was MOT'd today & I asked the tester about very similar cracks on the 2 year old Firestones (only 5000 miles) - he wasn't concerned & it passed no problem. I must say I don't like the look of it & don't seem to have had it happen on any other tyres in the past 50 years of motoring. I'm fussy about keeping pressures correct as well. Would be interested in any response you get from the manufacturers.

rallycross

13,531 posts

252 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Unusual to see that on a recent Goodyear.
39 is very high would expect 32-34 on the rear of a Passat, but 39 psi would never cause that.

I would expect them to take them back for analysis (your local tyre depot will be familiar with the process) but you will still have to pay for replacements and then hope you get a cheque once they have checked them out.


BJPPJB

Original Poster:

49 posts

111 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Thanks for the response. 39 psi is VW's recommendation (its an estate if that makes any difference)

The better of the two (newer one) has had a puncture repaired last year at some point (centre of tyre) I imagine if they were to replace them, they would use that as an excuse?

Just to add as well, they have covered about 20-25k miles

Cheers All

V8RX7

28,865 posts

278 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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I've run 15yr old tyres that look better than that !

Never seen cracks like that and I've been playing with old and high performance cars for 25+ years

PK0001

352 posts

192 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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If those were on my car I would be replacing them.

They have reached their near end of life.

Also look worn on the inside edges.

£200 for two new ones and peace of mind.

BJPPJB

Original Poster:

49 posts

111 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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They are definitely getting replaced asap, as I'm not happy about the cracks. It was more me wondering if anyone had experienced similar with what I would perceive as a premium tyre in a relatively unstressed application (motorway driving, with only me in the car)

Regarding the inner wear, seems to be a common thing with VW's of this vintage (2011)...

stevemcs

9,444 posts

108 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Seems to be quite common across most of the premium tyres for some reason, Michilens crack too but they are usually many years older.

Tyre returns are a pain, they take ages - like 6-8 weeks and then there is usually no issue.

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

256 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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It’s cracking due to premature aging and nothing to worry about.

HustleRussell

25,598 posts

175 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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I wouldn’t be overly concerned by those cracks but I would buy a different brand of tyre next time around.

PhillipM

6,535 posts

204 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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They're fine. Had this on Dunlops and Michelins lately - they're all using a harder compound near the carcass these days that cracks a little when it ages in the grooves, I chatted with techs from both about it and they both said it's no issue at all.

V8RX7

28,865 posts

278 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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PhillipM said:
They're fine. Had this on Dunlops and Michelins lately - they're all using a harder compound near the carcass these days that cracks a little when it ages in the grooves, I chatted with techs from both about it and they both said it's no issue at all.
I'm used to ageing cracks - on 10 year old tyres, these are 3 !

I'd also mention that I used to be blase too - until I came out one day to find my 328 had two flat tyres - the cracks had gone through to the inner - I'd been driving at 80 a few days earlier

HustleRussell

25,598 posts

175 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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V8RX7 said:
I'm used to ageing cracks - on 10 year old tyres, these are 3 !

I'd also mention that I used to be blase too - until I came out one day to find my 328 had two flat tyres - the cracks had gone through to the inner - I'd been driving at 80 a few days earlier
These tyres have done 25,000 miles so they are well used even if there’s plenty of thread remaining

Also are you sure about your tyres ‘cracking through to the air’ as this seems pretty improbable considering the way tyres are constructed?

Flumpo

4,024 posts

88 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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I had this on a Dunlop tyre. I think it’s just the way some tyre compounds age.

I got it replaced as after looking closely at the tyre details. I knew it didn’t match the other 3 but had plenty of tread and was a ‘premium’ brand.

What I hadn’t spotted was it was 8 years old. The car was only 3!


Superleg48

1,525 posts

148 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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I always replace tyres at 5 years old, based on the date marker on the sidewall, irrespective of wear levels, which sometimes are not close to minimums. Perhaps that is overly cautious, but then our cars are pretty potent and I just don’t want to take unnecessary risks. Your four contact patches are the only thing between you and the ditch, so not worth messing around with in my opinion.

I guess for many people though, tyres would normally be replaced inside 5 years at normal average mileages, I am just talking from the perspective of cars that may not be driven quite enough to get to close to the legal minimums within 5 years, where I would replace anyway.

V8RX7

28,865 posts

278 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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HustleRussell said:
These tyres have done 25,000 miles so they are well used even if there’s plenty of thread remaining

Also are you sure about your tyres ‘cracking through to the air’ as this seems pretty improbable considering the way tyres are constructed?
Positive - parked up a working car, came back a week later to find two flat tyres, I tried to blow them up and air was coming through a crack - admittedly in the sidewall in my case.


HustleRussell

25,598 posts

175 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Superleg48 said:
I always replace tyres at 5 years old, based on the date marker on the sidewall, irrespective of wear levels, which sometimes are not close to minimums.
Unnecessary waste w/ significant negative environmental impact

Sheepshanks

37,158 posts

134 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Flumpo said:
I had this on a Dunlop tyre.
Same - on the lightly worn rears on back of daughter's Ibiza at 3yrs old. Mentioned in passing by the garage, but no comment on the MOT (this was a few years ago).

When I looked closely I was surprised how bad they looked - pretty wide, open cracks all the way around. I got them changed straightaway.

Superleg48

1,525 posts

148 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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HustleRussell said:
Superleg48 said:
I always replace tyres at 5 years old, based on the date marker on the sidewall, irrespective of wear levels, which sometimes are not close to minimums.
Unnecessary waste w/ significant negative environmental impact
Oh, well I guess we shouldn’t have a V12, V10 and a V8 in our stable then? I guess that is not exactly having a positive environmental impact either. Go back to reading the Guardian, eating your pulses and trimming your beard.

This forum is called Pistonheads. rolleyes

HustleRussell

25,598 posts

175 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Superleg48 said:
HustleRussell said:
Superleg48 said:
I always replace tyres at 5 years old, based on the date marker on the sidewall, irrespective of wear levels, which sometimes are not close to minimums.
Unnecessary waste w/ significant negative environmental impact
Oh, well I guess we shouldn’t have a V12, V10 and a V8 in our stable then? I guess that is not exactly having a positive environmental impact either. Go back to reading the Guardian, eating your pulses and trimming your beard.

This forum is called Pistonheads. rolleyes
Yes and I’m very impressed, but it doesn’t change the fact that you’re changing tyres even more prematurely than the tyre manufacturers themselves recommend. It’s an unnecessary waste of resource.