2.5 PI or S estate

2.5 PI or S estate

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johnxjsc1985

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15,948 posts

171 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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I am now doing less than 2k a year in my own car and it is mostly local stuff. Its a car I remember well from 70's and I feel it would a great fit for me know as a practical Classic 2nd Car.
I have given up on a TR6 for now its just not a practical option for me at present but an Estate would be.
If anyone knows of anyone who has one for sale would you please let me know budget wise anything upto about £10k but I wouldn't mind a useable rolling restoration.
Cheers

//j17

4,612 posts

230 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Your best bets will probably be either the Triumph 2000 Register (http://triumph2000register.co.uk) or eBay.

Either way you'll struggle to spend £10k buying one - the agreed value insurance valuation for a concours estate is £10,500 with A1 cars down at £6,000.

johnxjsc1985

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171 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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//j17 said:
Your best bets will probably be either the Triumph 2000 Register (http://triumph2000register.co.uk) or eBay.

Either way you'll struggle to spend £10k buying one - the agreed value insurance valuation for a concours estate is £10,500 with A1 cars down at £6,000.
cheers, there is one on Ebay up in Durham but it has a deposit on it but I have contacted them about it.

johnxjsc1985

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171 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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had a good response form the Register and I am going to look at a Car on Thursday owned by a former member who just hasn't the time these days to use it. Fingers crossed I have admired these for many years 40 to be precise. Also have loved the straight six since having a Vitesse many years ago.

tapkaJohnD

1,992 posts

211 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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John,
You've owned 'small chassis' Triumphs in the past, but did you have an estate version?

If you are looking at 2L Estates, I think you mean the estate version of the 2/2.5L saloon? Triumph never made a 2.5L Vitesse, nor a Vitesse estate, but a 2L Herald estate is an easy conversion, and provides an enormous amount of carrying space with the back seats folded! You can add a Vitesse bonnet and trim if you wish.
Park Royal produced about 20 Vitesse Estates in the day, to special order and with Triumph's consent, but without their cooperation. They had to buy 13/60 Estates and then the engines, panels and parts to convert them, makiing the cars very expensive!

I did this for a Vitesse race car, following the example of the Volvo estates in the BTCC:


John

Edited by tapkaJohnD on Thursday 7th September 10:43

johnxjsc1985

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15,948 posts

171 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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tapkaJohnD said:
John,
You've owned 'small chassis' Triumphs in the past, but did you have an estate version?

If you are looking at 2L Estates, I think you mean the estate version of the 2/2.5L saloon? Triumph never made a 2.5L Vitesse, nor a Vitesse estate, but a 2L Herald estate is an easy conversion, and provides an enormous amount of carrying space with the back seats folded! You can add a Vitesse bonnet and trim if you wish.
Park Royal produced about 20 Vitesse Estates in the day, to special order and with Triumph's consent, but without their cooperation. They had to buy 13/60 Estates and then the engines, panels and parts to convert them, makiing the cars very expensive!

I did this for a Vitesse race car, following the example of the Volvo estates in the BTCC:


John

Edited by tapkaJohnD on Thursday 7th September 10:43
Not many 13/60 estates around either. I learned to day that the Estates on the MK2 were saloon bodies that were then coachbuilt into Estates and only sold to order probably why so few exist now.
I would love a Herald/Vitesse Estate but again almost impossible to find.
The Car I viewed to day was at a point where it really needed to be stripped down and restored if not now in a year or two.


RCK974X

2,521 posts

156 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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I always thought the mk2 estate car looked like a mk2 saloon with a mk1 estate back. If they were built to special order, that may explain why.....

But then there were quite a few estates and small vans from other makers that looked 'new front half/old rear half' in their day !!

I have seen 2.5PI estates and 2.5S, but were always a rare beast. I still see the odd saloon here in NZ. (Yes, some were built in NZ)

AAGR

918 posts

168 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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RCK974X said:
I always thought the mk2 estate car looked like a mk2 saloon with a mk1 estate back. If they were built to special order, that may explain why.....

But then there were quite a few estates and small vans from other makers that looked 'new front half/old rear half' in their day !!

I have seen 2.5PI estates and 2.5S, but were always a rare beast. I still see the odd saloon here in NZ. (Yes, some were built in NZ)
Pedants' corner here - no, no, not built to special order.

From 1969 to 1977, production of Mk 2 Estates was :

2000 Estate - 7,577

2.5PI Estate - 4,250

2500TC Estate - 673

2500S Estate - 2,231


That's 14,731 in all.

So it should be possible to find a good one or two ....

johnxjsc1985

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15,948 posts

171 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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AAGR said:
Pedants' corner here - no, no, not built to special order.

From 1969 to 1977, production of Mk 2 Estates was :

2000 Estate - 7,577

2.5PI Estate - 4,250

2500TC Estate - 673

2500S Estate - 2,231


That's 14,731 in all.

So it should be possible to find a good one or two ....
1 or 2 is probably about correct. I went to see one yesterday that was ready for a full rebuild so I need to be patient and wait for the right 1 out of the 2 to come on to the market

johnxjsc1985

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15,948 posts

171 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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tapkaJohnD said:
John,
You've owned 'small chassis' Triumphs in the past, but did you have an estate version?

If you are looking at 2L Estates, I think you mean the estate version of the 2/2.5L saloon? Triumph never made a 2.5L Vitesse, nor a Vitesse estate, but a 2L Herald estate is an easy conversion, and provides an enormous amount of carrying space with the back seats folded! You can add a Vitesse bonnet and trim if you wish.
Park Royal produced about 20 Vitesse Estates in the day, to special order and with Triumph's consent, but without their cooperation. They had to buy 13/60 Estates and then the engines, panels and parts to convert them, makiing the cars very expensive!

I did this for a Vitesse race car, following the example of the Volvo estates in the BTCC:


John

Edited by tapkaJohnD on Thursday 7th September 10:43
I have located a 2500 Vitesse Estate presumably a 13/60 conversion but it might be a good starting point.
Let you know how I get on.

johnxjsc1985

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15,948 posts

171 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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despite several E mails and unanswered phonecalls I have not been able to make contact so beginning to think this might be something of a fruitless exercise all round.