Wot no driver aids ?
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lazyitus

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slideways

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Friday 5th February 2010
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thats gona be expensive

Garlick

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Friday 5th February 2010
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Lost it in 50 yards! A record?

Toltec

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Friday 5th February 2010
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lazyitus said:
Were you thinking of abs or 4wd to fix that?

lazyitus

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Friday 5th February 2010
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Garlick said:
Lost it in 50 yards! A record?
Quite possibly. It would be near on impossible to cock up that badly within a shorter space.

lazyitus

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Toltec said:
lazyitus said:
Were you thinking of abs or 4wd to fix that?
TC would be a start.

slideways

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Friday 5th February 2010
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lazyitus said:
Toltec said:
lazyitus said:
Were you thinking of abs or 4wd to fix that?
TC would be a start.
not haveing the throttle pedal repaired by toyota would have been a start

Toltec

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Friday 5th February 2010
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lazyitus said:
Toltec said:
lazyitus said:
Were you thinking of abs or 4wd to fix that?
TC would be a start.
Scoobies don't have that, at least not ones the same age as that TVR, it was only added a couple of years ago I think.

Mark_S_24

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Saturday 6th February 2010
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I think he should get... some TALENT :-)

The Surveyor

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Saturday 6th February 2010
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laugh...those crap orange Tuscan drivers... all polish and no talent laugh

D14 AYS

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Saturday 6th February 2010
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What a PLUM hehe

Mini1275

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Poledriver

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Tuesday 9th February 2010
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lazyitus said:
Toltec said:
lazyitus said:
Were you thinking of abs or 4wd to fix that?
Half a brain would be a start.

Johno

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Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Cheers for the link as it's the first time I've seen this . . . didn't even know it was recorded . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYcFAEA1CQ

I was in the passenger seat and in fairness it was caused due to the rear brake circuit failing leaving us with a lot less braking than we needed on the fast entry to quarry. There's 2 lines for quarry, the brake into the apex line which we were on and the more sweeping line that i think the Saxo was on, without the rears we didn't stand a chance.

It did have the potential to get a little heated in the pits, but thankfully my driver is a race driver, went straight to the clerk of the course and he verified the mechanical failure once we'd found it and worked out what had happened.

The poor old Saxo driver and his mates didn't have much to say after that . . . except confirming he wasn't insured and he'd only gone out on track after his mates encouraged him to frown

Don

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Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Johno said:
Cheers for the link as it's the first time I've seen this . . . didn't even know it was recorded . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYcFAEA1CQ

I was in the passenger seat and in fairness it was caused due to the rear brake circuit failing leaving us with a lot less braking than we needed on the fast entry to quarry. There's 2 lines for quarry, the brake into the apex line which we were on and the more sweeping line that i think the Saxo was on, without the rears we didn't stand a chance.

It did have the potential to get a little heated in the pits, but thankfully my driver is a race driver, went straight to the clerk of the course and he verified the mechanical failure once we'd found it and worked out what had happened.

The poor old Saxo driver and his mates didn't have much to say after that . . . except confirming he wasn't insured and he'd only gone out on track after his mates encouraged him to frown
Ouch!

These things can happen at track days, though. Thankfully not often. Usually, it has to be said, it isn't mechanical failure that's to blame - as it was in this case.

Honestly - I live in fear of hitting the brake pedal and nothing happening.

It's only happened to me once - in an old Vectra - when the rear pads sheared away from the backing plate suddenly reducing braking by, well, most of it, actually. Thankfully I was braking for a junction on my right and could just overshoot.

There but for the grace of God and all that...

Johno

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Tuesday 9th February 2010
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It reminds you of a couple of things . . . the value of insurance at track days as it's not your own ability you're always insuring. That mechanical failures do happen and this was a meticulously maintained competition car.

I remember another large shunt at Folembray whilst we were on a PH day and there had been a long debate on the forum as to whether the owner should or should not insure his P&J. He decided he would. Fortunately as after it was put into the tyre wall the bill was significant frown

Don

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313 months

Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Johno said:
It reminds you of a couple of things . . . the value of insurance at track days as it's not your own ability you're always insuring. That mechanical failures do happen and this was a meticulously maintained competition car.

I remember another large shunt at Folembray whilst we were on a PH day and there had been a long debate on the forum as to whether the owner should or should not insure his P&J. He decided he would. Fortunately as after it was put into the tyre wall the bill was significant frown
I have always taken out insurance. Whilst I'm happy to pay for a service, clean up and a respray if I visit the gravel trap I would not like the bill of a trip into the tyrewall...

Podie

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Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Blimey Johno, I remember that first time round...

Was that Jas' car..?

Johno

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Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Podie said:
Blimey Johno, I remember that first time round...

Was that Jas' car..?
It was . . .

Al 450

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Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Johno said:
Cheers for the link as it's the first time I've seen this . . . didn't even know it was recorded . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYcFAEA1CQ

I was in the passenger seat and in fairness it was caused due to the rear brake circuit failing leaving us with a lot less braking than we needed on the fast entry to quarry. There's 2 lines for quarry, the brake into the apex line which we were on and the more sweeping line that i think the Saxo was on, without the rears we didn't stand a chance.

It did have the potential to get a little heated in the pits, but thankfully my driver is a race driver, went straight to the clerk of the course and he verified the mechanical failure once we'd found it and worked out what had happened.

The poor old Saxo driver and his mates didn't have much to say after that . . . except confirming he wasn't insured and he'd only gone out on track after his mates encouraged him to frown
Gosh that's a blast from the past. I was there on the day at Caste Coombe and the guy in the Saxo was a friend of a friend. He ended up getting the car towed off circuit and then getting it 'recovered' from a convenient ditch if I recall correctly.

We did recognise the need for proper trackday insurance and my car was covered but unfortunately not his. To be fair it was supposed to be a fairly mild, regulated trackday with plenty of assertions from the marshalls about keeping your distance between cars and not overtaking on the corners etc. but there's no accounting for random and unfortunate mechanical failure!