News Flash: TVR Prices rocket!
News Flash: TVR Prices rocket!
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mr spectraflair

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237 posts

230 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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Would all Tiv owners like their cars to be worth more?What if we 'all' suddenly overpriced our cars (there are probably enough TVR owners on PH's to superficially increase the market prices of TVR's), would our cars possibly be worth more? I mean, its not as if they were built in the same numbers as Porkers etc. Most of us look after our cars metaculously. It would also stop boy-racers buying them and ruining/running them on shoestring budgets. Could we actually achieve a rise and also maybe even a cult status amongst the motoring fraternity?
Just a thought...not that i'm ever selling!

Soovy

35,829 posts

300 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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rofl

stimshady

1,323 posts

216 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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Done. My car is now 10K more than it was. Woohoo!
If anyone ever offers me money for it, i'll say it's 33K (but i'm not selling either).

BGB autosport

1,044 posts

216 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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IMO this could work, if people want one enough then they will pay the normal going rate, if thats 500, 1000 or 5000 more.

However the demand for TVR's is limited and with other cars around which would become cheaper (should the tvr prices go up) then the demand would become even less.

This would then make people who are desperate to sell, drop their price and it could end up biting you in the arse as the prices could fall or you end up with a car that wont sell, as similar cars in the market place are cheaper and dare i say it.... seen as more reliable.

The Lukas

2,773 posts

223 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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I don't think it will work. It would just cause people to look elsewhere to get there thrills in motoring. Surly running costs alone is a good enough detergent to stop these boy racers getting ambitious?

Derek Smith

49,799 posts

277 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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There is a cycle in car prices of potentially classic cars.

They go through a period when they become hard to sell. No one wants them as for the price there are others with better investment potential. People desperate to sell have to drop prices. Then the 'boy racers' or rather those who have no idea of costs, buy them and find that they cannot afford servicing and spares and they become shabby. Because of the fact that there are so many poorly maintained ones out there, the value of even the good ones drop as the car isn't seen as desirable. Then, after a few years in the doldrums, prices begin to rise as enthusiasts buy and rebuild them. They are seen at shows, become interesting and all of a sudden are classy again.

There would appear to be little one can do to stop this rather vicious cycle. Even E-types went through such a period. My father nearly bought a pristine 3.8 Mk II Jag. Chauffeur driven all its life, but no longer wanted. But he was shrewd enough to investigate petrol consumption and servicing costs.

I sold an MGTC, in quite good nick, for £145, about two month’s wages, in 1970 to finance my wedding. I’d asked £150 but there were a load around in the papers at that time so I had to drop my price. Within 10 years they were up around £10,000 then slowly got to £17,000 and sort of stayed there. The same will happen to those TVRs struggling with second hand values now.



pwd95

8,457 posts

267 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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Just look at the 70's TVR's now, they're selling like hot cakes & for good money too £5k +. It's the Wedges that are at the bottom at the mo but over the next 5-10 years or so, as the economic climate gets better & they get rarer the prices will go up, especially if they've had some restoration work. yes

There's also the desirability factor. For some reason the 70's Lotus Elite & Eclat values have crashed whereas Esprit values have stayed relatively good. scratchchin

Edited by pwd95 on Tuesday 8th September 17:51

Guillotine

5,516 posts

293 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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Jensen Intercepter...couldn't give one away 10 years ago. Now £7k+
Same for Stags...
Healeys...
MGAs...

It'll come and is already there for the Griff. Sags stabilising at £30k again etc

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

237 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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I was just too young to drive (or afford it) and the bottom fell out the market.

There was a short period in a petrol crisis when you could get genuine AC Cobra’s and change out of £4k. But fuel was hard to get.

My pleading with my father to get one fell upon deaf ears. He couldn’t see the investment potential in one. I never stopped rubbing that one in.

When I started driving, a mate managed to get a really tatty Lotus Elan as his first car. £400.

Hoover.

5,993 posts

271 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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I found the same with my Morris Ital...... brought at great cost of £525 and then couldn't even give it away to the scrap man..... probably worth a fortune now hehe

Milky400

1,960 posts

207 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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mr spectraflair said:
Would all Tiv owners like their cars to be worth more?What if we 'all' suddenly overpriced our cars (there are probably enough TVR owners on PH's to superficially increase the market prices of TVR's), would our cars possibly be worth more? I mean, its not as if they were built in the same numbers as Porkers etc. Most of us look after our cars metaculously. It would also stop boy-racers buying them and ruining/running them on shoestring budgets. Could we actually achieve a rise and also maybe even a cult status amongst the motoring fraternity?
Just a thought...not that i'm ever selling!
we haven't all got a bags of cash, but that doesn't mean we are boy racers, just living a childhood dream and it took me 30 years before i could live it driving

Edited by Milky400 on Tuesday 8th September 19:14

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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Hoover. said:
I found the same with my Morris Ital...... brought at great cost of £525 and then couldn't even give it away to the scrap man..... probably worth a fortune now hehe
rofl ...what as, a target on Top Gear ? wink

JonyPI

2,579 posts

218 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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dont do that! im trying to get into the TVR scene, loved them since i was a kid (still am compared to most of you probably) but i want to get a chim before the prices start going back up again! i always said ill have a chim by the time i was 21 and iv got till april to find the right one and i turn 22 hehe

shapeshifter

1,181 posts

251 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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JonyPI said:
dont do that! im trying to get into the TVR scene, loved them since i was a kid (still am compared to most of you probably) but i want to get a chim before the prices start going back up again! i always said ill have a chim by the time i was 21 and iv got till april to find the right one and i turn 22 hehe
Get in quick, prices are expected to go through the roof, next year prices of all TVR's are expected to double.

clive f

7,259 posts

262 months

Wednesday 9th September 2009
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The Lukas said:
I don't think it will work. It would just cause people to look elsewhere to get there thrills in motoring. Surly running costs alone is a good enough detergent to stop these boy racers getting ambitious?
Ah, but this is the voice of a man looking to buy another one!hehe

Derek Smith

49,799 posts

277 months

Wednesday 9th September 2009
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pwd95 said:
Just look at the 70's TVR's now, they're selling like hot cakes & for good money too £5k +. It's the Wedges that are at the bottom at the mo but over the next 5-10 years or so, as the economic climate gets better & they get rarer the prices will go up, especially if they've had some restoration work.
There were signs of a surge in interest in the V8-engined Wedges just before the present recession. Values have been difficult to judge of late but I assume that as we come out so Wedges will seem as desirable again to more than just the enthusiasts.

I was wondering what the green lobby's effects might be.

Mike Blake

83 posts

228 months

Wednesday 9th September 2009
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I certainly hope there's s bounce back. I couldn't give my wedge away for 1,500 pounds 18 months ago, so I kept it and still get great enjoyment from it.
The trouble is I know there are some big bills up ahead to keep it on the road and it's hard to justify spending more than the car is worth (especially to Mrs B).

AL 123

201 posts

218 months

Wednesday 9th September 2009
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mr spectraflair said:
Would all Tiv owners like their cars to be worth more?What if we 'all' suddenly overpriced our cars (there are probably enough TVR owners on PH's to superficially increase the market prices of TVR's), would our cars possibly be worth more? I mean, its not as if they were built in the same numbers as Porkers etc. Most of us look after our cars metaculously. It would also stop boy-racers buying them and ruining/running them on shoestring budgets. Could we actually achieve a rise and also maybe even a cult status amongst the motoring fraternity?
Just a thought...not that i'm ever selling!
If you're not planning on ever selling, you'd be better off if the prices crashed to really low, then you could stock up the garage with lots of TVR's!!

I vote drop the prices!! I'd love a Sag as welltongue out

mr spectraflair

Original Poster:

237 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th September 2009
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AL 123 said:
mr spectraflair said:
Would all Tiv owners like their cars to be worth more?What if we 'all' suddenly overpriced our cars (there are probably enough TVR owners on PH's to superficially increase the market prices of TVR's), would our cars possibly be worth more? I mean, its not as if they were built in the same numbers as Porkers etc. Most of us look after our cars metaculously. It would also stop boy-racers buying them and ruining/running them on shoestring budgets. Could we actually achieve a rise and also maybe even a cult status amongst the motoring fraternity?
Just a thought...not that i'm ever selling!
If you're not planning on ever selling, you'd be better off if the prices crashed to really low, then you could stock up the garage with lots of TVR's!!

I vote drop the prices!! I'd love a Sag as welltongue out
I don't really want to own many TVR's. I just thought that the're alot of car for the money ie, performance and stunning looks etc. As Tivs are no longer produced i was hoping their desirability would increase thus hopefully our cars would/should be worth more than the crumbling prices they represent at the mo.

stimshady

1,323 posts

216 months

Wednesday 9th September 2009
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i would like a second, either a Tuscan 2 Convertible or a Sag. - but that won't be happening for sometime.