Best Handling TVR?
Discussion
I've recently had the suspension and geo set up on my Chimaera and am amazed at how its transformed the handling. I'm wondering what's the best handling TVR in standard form? Are the later cars like the T350 and Tuscan 2 the best? Is it possible for the earlier cars like mine to be able to match them handling wise with a proper set up?
Your thoughts please.
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Your thoughts please.
T.
Two interesting replies. I would place the Tamora ahead of the Sagaris in standrad form, umless of course you feel at home with the safely set up understeer of the Sag.
Mark, while I don't disaagree, I think you posibly understate the term "well set-up". It would take a lot to pennies to enable a Griff to hold its own with a T-Car through the twisties (I'll ignore the bits in-between
) on most circuits in the UK.
Mark, while I don't disaagree, I think you posibly understate the term "well set-up". It would take a lot to pennies to enable a Griff to hold its own with a T-Car through the twisties (I'll ignore the bits in-between
) on most circuits in the UK. amazon said:
[quote=Mark (UB)] A well set up Chim/Griff 500 will be more than a match for a factory T car in the twistys on a track.
it's been a while - how the devil are you? 
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I think so much depends on the driver...in real life.
A really good driver will be able to make a standard car handle much better than you or I ever thought possible, and thus overtake lesser mortals in 'better' cars.
That's the fun of motor racing, and the challenge of making a not-so-great handling car go fast and smooth on the road.
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Needless to say...I'm one of the lesser mortals
A really good driver will be able to make a standard car handle much better than you or I ever thought possible, and thus overtake lesser mortals in 'better' cars.
That's the fun of motor racing, and the challenge of making a not-so-great handling car go fast and smooth on the road.
.
Needless to say...I'm one of the lesser mortals
grahamw48 said:
I think so much depends on the driver...in real life.
A really good driver will be able to make a standard car handle much better than you or I ever thought possible, and thus overtake lesser mortals in 'better' cars.
That's the fun of motor racing, and the challenge of making a not-so-great handling car go fast and smooth on the road.
.
Needless to say...I'm one of the lesser mortals
Graham,A really good driver will be able to make a standard car handle much better than you or I ever thought possible, and thus overtake lesser mortals in 'better' cars.
That's the fun of motor racing, and the challenge of making a not-so-great handling car go fast and smooth on the road.
.
Needless to say...I'm one of the lesser mortals
I agree that much depends on the drver, but the driver does not change the car. The question was what's the best handling TVR. To have a level playing field, that must mean a vehicle in standard form. That's why I suggested the Tam.
i'd have thought a sag in std form would be best as it has the wider track,compaired with the tivs
but i know nothing about set up etc....
i had a well sorted griff 500:nitrons nylon bushed, wilwood breaks R888 etc and the sag is about 2 a lap quicker around castle combe
but i know nothing about set up etc....
i had a well sorted griff 500:nitrons nylon bushed, wilwood breaks R888 etc and the sag is about 2 a lap quicker around castle combe
Edited by Flyin Banana on Saturday 27th June 14:45
Thanks for the replies guys, taking the Sag out of the equation and just basing this on the T cars and Chims, Griffs and Cerbs. Again all in standard from as Im aware the improvements to be made with a proper set up would you still say the Tamora is the best and if so whats the reasoning behind this? I'm sorry but Im not familiar with how the chassis is different between the newer models.
TVR_owner said:
grahamw48 said:
I think so much depends on the driver...in real life.
A really good driver will be able to make a standard car handle much better than you or I ever thought possible, and thus overtake lesser mortals in 'better' cars.
That's the fun of motor racing, and the challenge of making a not-so-great handling car go fast and smooth on the road.
.
Needless to say...I'm one of the lesser mortals
Graham,A really good driver will be able to make a standard car handle much better than you or I ever thought possible, and thus overtake lesser mortals in 'better' cars.
That's the fun of motor racing, and the challenge of making a not-so-great handling car go fast and smooth on the road.
.
Needless to say...I'm one of the lesser mortals
I agree that much depends on the drver, but the driver does not change the car. The question was what's the best handling TVR. To have a level playing field, that must mean a vehicle in standard form. That's why I suggested the Tam.
2mad said:
check out monster tvr bng/tvrcc trackday - croft race prepared griff in a tussle with sagaris
Not a fair comparison, Andy's Griff will murder any Standish Sag and so it should it's had a lot of money spent on it.From my experience of TDs (and I ain't no Stig) it's the older slightly modded car's like Wedges/S/Chim/Griff/Cerbs that are quicker on Track and I've been on track with many Sags, Tams, T350.
I just don't think the gap in performance is as big as some people like to make out.
The quickest slightly modded Tivs are defo the V8s Cerbs IMHO.
This thread isn't about being quick it's about good handling. I've said it before and i'll say it again .. look to the older narrow tyred cars like vixens etc .. if you want good HANDLING you need to start thinking differently, and don't forget TVR's heritage! The newer cars aren't necessarily the best
Edited by spitfire4v8 on Saturday 27th June 17:55
It’s all very well to handle nicely on a track, but they are mainly road cars in a country that neglects road maintenance. The real test should be how well they cope with public roads. Does the later chassis out handle the earlier cars on public roads?
I’ve never seen a later ‘T’ chassis with the body off, what are the differences compared to a Griff?
I was wondering which, if any, later chassis could potentially be fitted underneath a Griff body with a little modification?
It’s inevitable that every car will need a body off chassis overhaul sooner or later. The labour costs would be little different to fit an uprated chassis instead.
Some companies have built jigs to manufacture a new Griff chassis. If we are forced to go to all that trouble and expense, why put it back as standard? Once the jig is made, the cost of an improved chassis would be minimal.
Why not make a replacement chassis modelled upon later and better handling alternatives. The new chassis could also incorporate preparations for other changes, such as different engines.
If it were sufficiently similar to later cars, it would benefit them too. It would provide an early source of replacement chassis for them, before they start to rust. It could allow easier engine transplants for them too.
I’ve never seen a later ‘T’ chassis with the body off, what are the differences compared to a Griff?
I was wondering which, if any, later chassis could potentially be fitted underneath a Griff body with a little modification?
It’s inevitable that every car will need a body off chassis overhaul sooner or later. The labour costs would be little different to fit an uprated chassis instead.
Some companies have built jigs to manufacture a new Griff chassis. If we are forced to go to all that trouble and expense, why put it back as standard? Once the jig is made, the cost of an improved chassis would be minimal.
Why not make a replacement chassis modelled upon later and better handling alternatives. The new chassis could also incorporate preparations for other changes, such as different engines.
If it were sufficiently similar to later cars, it would benefit them too. It would provide an early source of replacement chassis for them, before they start to rust. It could allow easier engine transplants for them too.
Flyin Banana said:
i'd have thought a sag in std form would be best as it has the wider track,compaired with the tivs
but i know nothing about set up etc....
i had a well sorted griff 500:nitrons nylon bushed, wilwood breaks R888 etc and the sag is about 2 a lap quicker around castle combe
lap time with a car with a 100bhp more than the other, and only 2 seconds quicker. might indicate the handling is better in the slower car but i know nothing about set up etc....
i had a well sorted griff 500:nitrons nylon bushed, wilwood breaks R888 etc and the sag is about 2 a lap quicker around castle combe
Edited by Flyin Banana on Saturday 27th June 14:45
Anyway, what is handling?
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