Foreign buyers?
Discussion
I have my car in the classifieds at the moment and have since had 3 guys email me about it, 1 from France and 2 from Germany, while they all seem very polite and indeed need to no the ins and out's of a ducks ass about the car witch is understandable before they travel over, all of them have ceased contact after receiving the v5 and elle information 
Have i been a bit daft giving out the details of the car or is it true they need all this imformation to get it registered over there?
Have i been a bit daft giving out the details of the car or is it true they need all this imformation to get it registered over there? Hi I'm form Slovenia and own a Tuscan and can tell you from my own experience that it is not easy the get a TVR registered in Germany, France or Slovenia. It took me 4 weeks of fighting and a lot of help from different friends in Germany to succeed. Mostly they all search for the car that is the same production year and model as some other TVR that is already registered in their country. Whith the copy of documents they make it easier and not necessarily easy.
When I was looking for the Chim pre Xmas, there was no end of cars going abroad that I missed out on.
The strength of the Euro means that TVR's are fecking bargains now for our Euro-zone friends.
I found an immaculate one local to me, so obviously phoned up and the seller had just received a 1,000 Euro deposit transferred into his bank account from a guy travelling over from Belgium in a few days! He'd not even seen the car! Following that there was 2 other instances where similar had happened.
The strength of the Euro means that TVR's are fecking bargains now for our Euro-zone friends.
I found an immaculate one local to me, so obviously phoned up and the seller had just received a 1,000 Euro deposit transferred into his bank account from a guy travelling over from Belgium in a few days! He'd not even seen the car! Following that there was 2 other instances where similar had happened.
krisles said:
Hi I'm form Slovenia and own a Tuscan and can tell you from my own experience that it is not easy the get a TVR registered in Germany, France or Slovenia. It took me 4 weeks of fighting and a lot of help from different friends in Germany to succeed. Mostly they all search for the car that is the same production year and model as some other TVR that is already registered in their country. Whith the copy of documents they make it easier and not necessarily easy.
I guess its just the nature of the beast then, and i do realise its a long drawn out process to get these cars over there but i really dont like to keep sending photo copy's of my v5 to folks who seem to vanish once its received, i guess wot i'm asking is can any harm come of it? I had a queer one lately. My Griff was on PH classifieds for some time but didn't shift. Rather than just remove the advert I upped the price to £50,000 as a joke.
Within a couple of days I received an enquiry from Belgium asking all sorts of info including a copy of the V5. As the car was ridiculously priced I can only assume it was not a genuine enquiry but an attempt to have me over.
I'm sure there are many genuine buyers out there, but it only takes one...
Within a couple of days I received an enquiry from Belgium asking all sorts of info including a copy of the V5. As the car was ridiculously priced I can only assume it was not a genuine enquiry but an attempt to have me over.
I'm sure there are many genuine buyers out there, but it only takes one...
mak said:
all of them have ceased contact after receiving the v5 and elle information Have i been a bit daft giving out the details of the car or is it true they need all this imformation to get it registered over there?
TVR did not do full European approval on all the models. If the car is one of the very few that have full EU approval it will be clear from the V5. Have i been a bit daft giving out the details of the car or is it true they need all this imformation to get it registered over there? I would expect any serious buyer from mainland europe to ask to see the V5 (and a declaration of conformity) before parting with any cash.
Le TVR said:
mak said:
all of them have ceased contact after receiving the v5 and elle information Have i been a bit daft giving out the details of the car or is it true they need all this imformation to get it registered over there?
TVR did not do full European approval on all the models. If the car is one of the very few that have full EU approval it will be clear from the V5. Have i been a bit daft giving out the details of the car or is it true they need all this imformation to get it registered over there? I would expect any serious buyer from mainland europe to ask to see the V5 (and a declaration of conformity) before parting with any cash.
How do you spot the difference on the V5?
Not TVR related but I've got one of my Mustangs for sale and have an enquiry from France. He emailed all the registration/import forms he would need to fill in if he bought the car so that I could give him the info he needs so he can see if he would be able to register it before commiting to buying.
Two years ago I bought a T350 and registered it in Germany. Neither the T350 nor the Tamora (not to mention the Sagaris) have a CoC (certificate of conformity).
I also asked a lot of questions and needed a lot of details. In addition I had Rob Ingleby inspect the car.
I took about 200 pages of TVR certificates to the TÜV. These were certainly enough - and having spoken to them before buying the TVR it was no problem in getting it road legal on the technical side.
For the legal side, the V5 document is vital. I needed to turn it in along with the license plates to have my car registered. It's a standard procedure - the only additional thing needed is the paperwork from the TÜV.
Cheers
Konrad
I also asked a lot of questions and needed a lot of details. In addition I had Rob Ingleby inspect the car.
I took about 200 pages of TVR certificates to the TÜV. These were certainly enough - and having spoken to them before buying the TVR it was no problem in getting it road legal on the technical side.
For the legal side, the V5 document is vital. I needed to turn it in along with the license plates to have my car registered. It's a standard procedure - the only additional thing needed is the paperwork from the TÜV.
Cheers
Konrad
Uncle Fester said:
Is there a list of which models had full European type approval?
How do you spot the difference on the V5?
I have never been able to establish a definitive list but the Chim was about the only one:How do you spot the difference on the V5?
Chim 400, 450, 500 1994-1997 (later models not certain)
Griff 500 some early ones.
Sorry to be vague but the applicable EU directive is updated frequently and it seems that TVR may not have revised the cars to meet revised directives.
The V5 should show the EU directive, version etc by the e11** code (also on the chassis number plate).
Le TVR said:
I have never been able to establish a definitive list but the Chim was about the only one:
Chim 400, 450, 500 1994-1997 (later models not certain)
Griff 500 some early ones.
Sorry to be vague but the applicable EU directive is updated frequently and it seems that TVR may not have revised the cars to meet revised directives.
The V5 should show the EU directive, version etc by the e11** code (also on the chassis number plate).
You are quite correct it is mostly on the chims up to 1998 that have a COC; Chim 400, 450, 500 1994-1997 (later models not certain)
Griff 500 some early ones.
Sorry to be vague but the applicable EU directive is updated frequently and it seems that TVR may not have revised the cars to meet revised directives.
The V5 should show the EU directive, version etc by the e11** code (also on the chassis number plate).
I am watching this thread, as I have been giving a few 'tips' to some of the Germans on what to buy etc. so you can all blame me, but not just me!
The funny thing is with a lot of the EU guys, not wanting to burn myself. But it seems they most expect TVR's to be in A1 condition no matter what age. This mostly has to do with the fact that the TÜV is a downright PITA when it comes to importing an unknown car.
It can be so much trouble, I know when I had my Griff (1996 500HC) before, the TÜV wanted the following to be changed:-
1) Complete Exhaust System
2) Headlights and Rear Lights
3) Air-filter location
4) Complete Brake System
So in the end I sold it 'cos it was such a hassle, (even though; it might have been the fact that I was English and it was an English car...)
tips for those selling TVR's to EU buyers, tell them as it is; if yours is decatted they won't touch it with a barge pole unless you are selling CAT's with it. They will expect the chassis to be in A1 condition, as well as the bodywork, and interior. If you are saying it is Good, this will be interpreted as Immaculate.
Dont forget you are not only wasting your time but eventually also their time & money too.
Cheers
Steve
LordGrover said:
I upped the price to £50,000 as a joke.
Within a couple of days I received an enquiry from Belgium asking all sorts of info including a copy of the V5. As the car was ridiculously priced I can only assume it was not a genuine enquiry but an attempt to have me over.
An attempt to have you over! At that price my man i think he may have been a little concerned about his pants coming down Within a couple of days I received an enquiry from Belgium asking all sorts of info including a copy of the V5. As the car was ridiculously priced I can only assume it was not a genuine enquiry but an attempt to have me over.
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