Saab or TVR for the snow?

[jubileejim]

Hi All

Dilema... Do I drive a Saab with 2.5 mm of tread to work in the snow or the chimaera with close to 4mm? or neither?

tj

[Apache]

TVR every time, we had a Griff and a 9000, the SAAB was crap

[jubileejim]

Is it a case of easy on the right boot and no harsh breaking/steering.

[BGB autosport]

TVR, you might be supprised, just go steady

[Apache]

jubileejim said:

Is it a case of easy on the right boot and no harsh breaking/steering.

of course, try to plan ahead and use the torque.....not having ABS helps too

[jubileejim]

Why does not having abs help?

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[jubileejim]

Awe blinded by the snow . Luckily my chim is in the garage, its mr saab who being blinded.

[x 7usc]

jubileejim said:

Why does not having abs help?

if you find the need to stop quickly in the snow, locking up the wheels will stop you far sooner than juddering along on the abs

[jubileejim]

i see, i always thought abs was designed to stop sliding by stopping progressively, where as ordinary breaks would slip on the road.

[Apache]

jubileejim said:

i see, i always thought abs was designed to stop sliding by stopping progressively, where as ordinary breaks would slip on the road.

Thing is, with packed snow the wheels are about to break away constantly under braking so the ABS will cut in virtually all the time....it's supposed to sense a lock up before it happens which is not much use in the snow

[Monkeylegend]

Apache said:

jubileejim said:

i see, i always thought abs was designed to stop sliding by stopping progressively, where as ordinary breaks would slip on the road.

Thing is, with packed snow the wheels are about to break away constantly under braking so the ABS will cut in virtually all the time....it's supposed to sense a lock up before it happens which is not much use in the snow

ABS is also designed to allow you to steer when braking in slippery conditions. I would take it every time in the snow.

[Cuchillo]

Mine smiled at me at around 6 this morning!

[leorest]

x 7usc said:

jubileejim said:

Why does not having abs help?

if you find the need to stop quickly in the snow, locking up the wheels will stop you far sooner than juddering along on the abs

I thought abs had a minimum operating speed which you are unlikely to reach on snow/ice?

[WorAl]

Monkeylegend said:

Apache said:

jubileejim said:

i see, i always thought abs was designed to stop sliding by stopping progressively, where as ordinary breaks would slip on the road.

Thing is, with packed snow the wheels are about to break away constantly under braking so the ABS will cut in virtually all the time....it's supposed to sense a lock up before it happens which is not much use in the snow

ABS is also designed to allow you to steer when braking in slippery conditions. I would take it every time in the snow.

have you ever jammed the abs brakes on in the snow before, the car will just slide, they lock intastantly as the system thinks the car has stopped as there is no resistance to the wheels....NO ABS Everytime, i used to remove the ABS fuse on my subaru when heading out in snow, worked a treat.

[Monkeylegend]

WorAl said:

Monkeylegend said:

Apache said:

jubileejim said:

i see, i always thought abs was designed to stop sliding by stopping progressively, where as ordinary breaks would slip on the road.

Thing is, with packed snow the wheels are about to break away constantly under braking so the ABS will cut in virtually all the time....it's supposed to sense a lock up before it happens which is not much use in the snow

ABS is also designed to allow you to steer when braking in slippery conditions. I would take it every time in the snow.

have you ever jammed the abs brakes on in the snow before, the car will just slide, they lock intastantly as the system thinks the car has stopped as there is no resistance to the wheels....NO ABS Everytime, i used to remove the ABS fuse on my subaru when heading out in snow, worked a treat.

Yep, several times on the way to Stansted at 03.00 in the snow this morning. Wouldn't want to be without it. Just my personal preferance.

[jubileejim]

wow dunno what to do on the one hand i suppose the saab is worthless than the tiv so less of a risk. Mostly motorway though so should be salted and traffic going slow due to jacknifed lorry's

[Apache]

torque is your friend

[grahamn]

Take the Tiv, just done 85 miles from Bedford to Newbury in the Cerb this morning.

[jubileejim]

thanks for the advice. I am going to brave it in the saab, being swedish the snow should be a breeze. Haven't driven rear wheeldrive in snow so think I should aviod trying it out today. Mable had an outing Saturday to Battle so she's not being neglected. Cheers all